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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ahh big government, out to protect you from HARM!
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    a lot bigger than julie

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    A while back, a judge at a chili cookoff here in Texas tasted some chili made by a couple of kids, and it tasted funny. When he asked what was in it, the kids laughed and replied "Dog **** (poo)".

    I know its a lemonaide stand, but the kid was selling to the general public, which does put it under the same rules as anybody else who sells a food product to the general public - She pays a license fee, and must be inspected, just like everybody else.
    And this is what our country has come to. It makes me wonder how I managed to survive. When I was a kid stands were common, no seat belts in cars, no car seats for the little ones. and yet here I am today. Maybe it was because parents actual spent time with the kids.

    I see a lack of parenting skill somewhere in the above statement.
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    Man when I was a kid (and Im only 25) I got dirty, I went outside, I climbed trees and fell from them hitting every branch, I craved being dirty, I would go swimming in giant mud puddles, you could get in a fight at school without involving the police, you could spank your kid without having to worry about someone sending you to jail. This wasn't even that long ago.
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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    a lot bigger than julie
    All I'm sayin is, "Oh no! The lemonade Nazis of some county in Oregon are out to get me! Whatever will I do!"

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    While I understand the need for food safety, vendors who distribute under a certain amount of food should be exempt. Regulations should never be an excuse for poor judgment.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    It seems like this was more about collecting a fee than it was about food safety.

    If adults had been selling the lemonade, would it have made a difference? The fact that it's a cute little girl seems to suggest that food safety doesn't apply.

    The other thing to consider is that this was at a fair/convention. I think that puts it in a different arena than just selling lemonade on your front lawn in the classic way. Conventions have government people walking around all the time and no one gets off easy.

    I agree it was over the top, but it was still legal to do it.

    EDIT: Forgot to add... unless the girl was making it with real lemons, it was probably crap lemonade not worth drinking anyway.

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    Oh so now you have a problem with Country Time? I see how it is. It's all becoming clear now.
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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Was samsmart being serious, did anyone figure that out? I just think it was stupid of her to do a lemonade stand (and for her parents to let her set herself up like that) but whats wrong with a kid making some money. I guess you think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns in the neighborhood too?
    I was being serious.

    And I'm not against a kid making some money. And no, I don't think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns. But I do think it would be helpful to require them, if they're under a certain age, to purchase a cheap business license, about $5, in order to operate. Once they pay that license they should then get a pamphlet that lists any responsibilities they may have in performing their business, if any.

    I don't see what's wrong with that. What's wrong with having a kid who is trying to make a profit be made aware of and educated of any laws they may be liable for despite being a child?

    If a kid is going to have a lemonade stand, what's wrong with giving her a pamphlet on basic health and safety procedures for preparation of foods and drinks? If a kid is going to mow lawns, what's wrong with giving him a pamphlet on good safety measures, such as proper eye-wear?

    Accidents don't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. Litigation doesn't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. What's wrong with requiring a $5 child business license that in the purchase of it will provide educational materials for the child on how to operate whatever they're doing in a manner safe to them as well as their customers?

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I was being serious.

    And I'm not against a kid making some money. And no, I don't think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns. But I do think it would be helpful to require them, if they're under a certain age, to purchase a cheap business license, about $5, in order to operate. Once they pay that license they should then get a pamphlet that lists any responsibilities they may have in performing their business, if any.

    I don't see what's wrong with that. What's wrong with having a kid who is trying to make a profit be made aware of and educated of any laws they may be liable for despite being a child?

    If a kid is going to have a lemonade stand, what's wrong with giving her a pamphlet on basic health and safety procedures for preparation of foods and drinks? If a kid is going to mow lawns, what's wrong with giving him a pamphlet on good safety measures, such as proper eye-wear?

    Accidents don't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. Litigation doesn't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. What's wrong with requiring a $5 child business license that in the purchase of it will provide educational materials for the child on how to operate whatever they're doing in a manner safe to them as well as their customers?
    I dunno man just seems to be a bit much. Down south when you see a stand selling cantelope, boiled peanuts, watermelon, corn, tomatoes etc on the side of the road no one really bothers them, why both a kid? I'm not asking the guy selling me the corn if he used pesticides or what kind of corn it is, or the method, or wanting him to show me a business license for selling some corn, I just want some damn corn.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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