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Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operate

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A while back, a judge at a chili cookoff here in Texas tasted some chili made by a couple of kids, and it tasted funny. When he asked what was in it, the kids laughed and replied "Dog **** (poo)".

I know its a lemonaide stand, but the kid was selling to the general public, which does put it under the same rules as anybody else who sells a food product to the general public - She pays a license fee, and must be inspected, just like everybody else.
 
Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

A while back, a judge at a chili cookoff here in Texas tasted some chili made by a couple of kids, and it tasted funny. When he asked what was in it, the kids laughed and replied "Dog **** (poo)".

I know its a lemonaide stand, but the kid was selling to the general public, which does put it under the same rules as anybody else who sells a food product to the general public - She pays a license fee, and must be inspected, just like everybody else.

Except they had no intention of inspecting it.
They just wanted her to pay a fee to sell lemonade for a day.
 
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Brillaint, just brilliant.. Sheesh!

We had a garage sale (Yes I like garage saling and having them) at my home last month and my 3 older kids wanted to have a lemonaid stand. I thought it would be a good execise for them. I was surprised that they made $41 dollars. of course the $41 bucks went to silly bands, and ice cream, but hopefully the economic lesson wasn't lost on them. :)





Tim-
 
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We can all go on about "public health," but a lot of times in life everybody, including government officials, just has to think, "Oh come the **** on!!" Firstly, she's making lemonade. Have we come to the point where we need a government offical holding your hand while you make freaking lemonade? You mix in water, ice, and powder. What does this bureaucrat think she's preparing, fugu? Secondly, this is a kid's lemonade stand. If you buy from a seven year old, honestly expecting quality, then you have bigger problems then the slim possibility that the kid switched Kool-Aid with rat poison.
 
Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

A while back, a judge at a chili cookoff here in Texas tasted some chili made by a couple of kids, and it tasted funny. When he asked what was in it, the kids laughed and replied "Dog **** (poo)".

I know its a lemonaide stand, but the kid was selling to the general public, which does put it under the same rules as anybody else who sells a food product to the general public - She pays a license fee, and must be inspected, just like everybody else.

So sacrifice people's freedom because of the few that abuse it? Does it mean any unlicensed food vendor will purposely try to harm their customers/consumers? And does a license truly safeguard against these types of food contamination, accidental or intentional? Well until they get that working, I would advise not making that ridiculous law where people need to be licensed just to sell food. Mind as well make all those school potlucks licensed, food are being exchanged in a certain location and God knows what's on the tables each kid eats on.

Big health code violations! No food temp regulators. No refigeration. Hell, not even a sanitary towel with sanitizers in a bucket of water that must be kept close at all times!!!!
 
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I know its a lemonaide stand, but the kid was selling to the general public, which does put it under the same rules as anybody else who sells a food product to the general public - She pays a license fee, and must be inspected, just like everybody else.
So then maybe she pays the licence, gets inspected, and THEN puts in the dog poo?

Sorry, don't see your point.
 
Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

A while back, a judge at a chili cookoff here in Texas tasted some chili made by a couple of kids, and it tasted funny. When he asked what was in it, the kids laughed and replied "Dog **** (poo)".

I know its a lemonade stand, but the kid was selling to the general public, which does put it under the same rules as anybody else who sells a food product to the general public - She pays a license fee, and must be inspected, just like everybody else.

And in that case, (hypothetically) went out and got the $120 license... and still made chilli with dog ****... how is that protecting the public? Paying for a piece of paper does not guarantee anything, it's simply paying the local government to sell something. What everyone's missing here is that clip board lady wasn't testing the lemonade - she was only checking for bureaucratic paperwork and money was paid. This isn't about health safety, it's about money.
 
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Was samsmart being serious, did anyone figure that out? I just think it was stupid of her to do a lemonade stand (and for her parents to let her set herself up like that) but whats wrong with a kid making some money. I guess you think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns in the neighborhood too?
 
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Was samsmart being serious, did anyone figure that out? I just think it was stupid of her to do a lemonade stand (and for her parents to let her set herself up like that) but whats wrong with a kid making some money. I guess you think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns in the neighborhood too?

I guess you support tax evasion?

Why do you hate America?

:lol:
 
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I guess you think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns in the neighborhood too?

don't forget to call osha, too
 
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Christ on a crutch, I'm thanking MrVicchio. :lol:

Seriously, though, that was bull****.

This is what I was thinking lol.

And yeah, this was bull****.
 
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a very small and very interesting story

politics is both big and small, it's whatever hits the gut

just another example of that govt-knows-best attitude that is totally out of control these days and has so many americans ready to puke

where's the judgement, where's the humanity?
 
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And in that case, (hypothetically) went out and got the $120 license... and still made chilli with dog ****... how is that protecting the public? Paying for a piece of paper does not guarantee anything, it's simply paying the local government to sell something. What everyone's missing here is that clip board lady wasn't testing the lemonade - she was only checking for bureaucratic paperwork and money was paid. This isn't about health safety, it's about money.
Seriously? Do you actually believe the government expected to get the money from the kid? The license fee discourages unsafe food outlets.
 
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Seriously? Do you actually believe the government expected to get the money from the kid? The license fee discourages unsafe food outlets.

$120 isn't going to discourage anyone from doing anything.
You could get that much by doing easier bad stuff than selling unsafe food.
 
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Food for thought, a while back a bunch of kids got in trouble for selling lemonade... of course it was mainly because they were peeing in the big jug of lemonade and then selling it super cheap as some weird ****ed up prank.

Do you REALLY want to know what some of those fast food cooks do to your food at those licensed and regulated establishments?
 
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Ahh big government, out to protect you from HARM!

Multnomah County is big government?
 
Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

a lot bigger than julie
 
Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

A while back, a judge at a chili cookoff here in Texas tasted some chili made by a couple of kids, and it tasted funny. When he asked what was in it, the kids laughed and replied "Dog **** (poo)".

I know its a lemonaide stand, but the kid was selling to the general public, which does put it under the same rules as anybody else who sells a food product to the general public - She pays a license fee, and must be inspected, just like everybody else.

And this is what our country has come to. It makes me wonder how I managed to survive. When I was a kid stands were common, no seat belts in cars, no car seats for the little ones. and yet here I am today. Maybe it was because parents actual spent time with the kids.

I see a lack of parenting skill somewhere in the above statement.
 
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Man when I was a kid (and Im only 25) I got dirty, I went outside, I climbed trees and fell from them hitting every branch, I craved being dirty, I would go swimming in giant mud puddles, you could get in a fight at school without involving the police, you could spank your kid without having to worry about someone sending you to jail. This wasn't even that long ago.
 
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a lot bigger than julie

All I'm sayin is, "Oh no! The lemonade Nazis of some county in Oregon are out to get me! Whatever will I do!"
 
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While I understand the need for food safety, vendors who distribute under a certain amount of food should be exempt. Regulations should never be an excuse for poor judgment.
 
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It seems like this was more about collecting a fee than it was about food safety.

If adults had been selling the lemonade, would it have made a difference? The fact that it's a cute little girl seems to suggest that food safety doesn't apply.

The other thing to consider is that this was at a fair/convention. I think that puts it in a different arena than just selling lemonade on your front lawn in the classic way. Conventions have government people walking around all the time and no one gets off easy.

I agree it was over the top, but it was still legal to do it.

EDIT: Forgot to add... unless the girl was making it with real lemons, it was probably crap lemonade not worth drinking anyway.
 
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Oh so now you have a problem with Country Time? I see how it is. It's all becoming clear now.
 
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Was samsmart being serious, did anyone figure that out? I just think it was stupid of her to do a lemonade stand (and for her parents to let her set herself up like that) but whats wrong with a kid making some money. I guess you think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns in the neighborhood too?

I was being serious.

And I'm not against a kid making some money. And no, I don't think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns. But I do think it would be helpful to require them, if they're under a certain age, to purchase a cheap business license, about $5, in order to operate. Once they pay that license they should then get a pamphlet that lists any responsibilities they may have in performing their business, if any.

I don't see what's wrong with that. What's wrong with having a kid who is trying to make a profit be made aware of and educated of any laws they may be liable for despite being a child?

If a kid is going to have a lemonade stand, what's wrong with giving her a pamphlet on basic health and safety procedures for preparation of foods and drinks? If a kid is going to mow lawns, what's wrong with giving him a pamphlet on good safety measures, such as proper eye-wear?

Accidents don't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. Litigation doesn't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. What's wrong with requiring a $5 child business license that in the purchase of it will provide educational materials for the child on how to operate whatever they're doing in a manner safe to them as well as their customers?
 
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I was being serious.

And I'm not against a kid making some money. And no, I don't think kids should get taxed when they go mow lawns. But I do think it would be helpful to require them, if they're under a certain age, to purchase a cheap business license, about $5, in order to operate. Once they pay that license they should then get a pamphlet that lists any responsibilities they may have in performing their business, if any.

I don't see what's wrong with that. What's wrong with having a kid who is trying to make a profit be made aware of and educated of any laws they may be liable for despite being a child?

If a kid is going to have a lemonade stand, what's wrong with giving her a pamphlet on basic health and safety procedures for preparation of foods and drinks? If a kid is going to mow lawns, what's wrong with giving him a pamphlet on good safety measures, such as proper eye-wear?

Accidents don't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. Litigation doesn't care if it's a kid doing this stuff. What's wrong with requiring a $5 child business license that in the purchase of it will provide educational materials for the child on how to operate whatever they're doing in a manner safe to them as well as their customers?

I dunno man just seems to be a bit much. Down south when you see a stand selling cantelope, boiled peanuts, watermelon, corn, tomatoes etc on the side of the road no one really bothers them, why both a kid? I'm not asking the guy selling me the corn if he used pesticides or what kind of corn it is, or the method, or wanting him to show me a business license for selling some corn, I just want some damn corn.
 
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