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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The "State" is all powerful isn't it?
    I never said that.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

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    If you will note, I never said that I think this 10-year-old girl running a lemonade stand should undergo inspections. What I said is that she should be required to pay a very small $5 fee to get a general business license for children and be given pamphlets on how to act in a responsible manner that takes her safety and the safety of her customers into account. This way, the government can pursue the public interest, which is the safety and health of the public at large. Should a police officer notice her, he can ask for her child business license as proof that she read those safety precautions. She hands it to him, he sees it, and the government now knows that she can sell to the public with the interests of public safety and health involved. She can go about her business in selling lemonade now.

    Should something bad happened, such as she was selling tainted lemons or was using tainted wanted in making the lemonade, the government has a record of her business license they can use to backtrack the effect of it should they need to. This will advance government response time in pursuing an emergency response. There's nothing sinister about this - it's just in case something bad happens, which very well could.

    It's not that big of a deal to ask her or her parents to pay $5 for a child's business license so she can sell lemonade in order to educate her on basic business and health and safety practices.
    It is the principle of requiring a child to get a business license.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

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    It is the principle of requiring a child to get a business license.

    Who will these liberals find next to extort?


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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is the principle of requiring a child to get a business license.
    Oh, I see. So the principle of requiring a child to get a business license is better than the practicalities of having a way to ensure that child entrepreneurs follow basic health and safety guidelines for her own welfare and the welfare of the public.

    It is much too bad that reality and physics lacks the integrity that you have.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Oh, I see. So the principle of requiring a child to get a business license is better than the practicalities of having a way to ensure that child entrepreneurs follow basic health and safety guidelines for her own welfare and the welfare of the public.

    It is much too bad that reality and physics lacks the integrity that you have.
    It is modern socialism. Control the private sector through over regulation by the state. It is very different than what America used to be. It ought to be resisted.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Oh, I see. So the principle of requiring a child to get a business license is better than the practicalities of having a way to ensure that child entrepreneurs follow basic health and safety guidelines for her own welfare and the welfare of the public.

    It is much too bad that reality and physics lacks the integrity that you have.

    Is there anything to suggest that this child was being unsanitary in her practice? From the article in the OP:

    The girl worked on a sign, coloring in the letters and decorating it with a drawing of a person saying "Yummy." She made a list of supplies.

    Then, with gallons of bottled water and packets of Kool-Aid, they drove up last Thursday with a friend and her daughter. They loaded a wheelbarrow that Julie steered to the corner of Northeast 26th and Alberta and settled into a space between a painter and a couple who sold handmade bags and kids' clothing.

    Even before her daughter had finished making the first batch of lemonade, a man walked up to buy a 50-cent cup.

    "They wanted to support a little 7-year-old to earn a little extra summer loot," she said. "People know what's going on."

    Even so, Julie was careful about making the lemonade, cleaning her hands with hand sanitizer, using a scoop for the bagged ice and keeping everything covered when it wasn't in use, Fife said.
    So the answer would be NO! Try another angle, this one is debunked.


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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is there anything to suggest that this child was being unsanitary in her practice? From the article in the OP:

    So the answer would be NO! Try another angle, this one is debunked.
    In this particular case, you're right - she individually was no unsanitary.

    However, she's not the only child who will ever sell lemonade in the world. We also have to take them into consideration as well.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    In this particular case, you're right - she individually was no unsanitary.

    However, she's not the only child who will ever sell lemonade in the world. We also have to take them into consideration as well.

    Who's "we"? The State? Why can't you liberals leave people alone?

    Tell me, How much illness, or deaths are caused each year by these rampant, unwashed 7 year olds running roadside lemonade stands? Got a figure on that?


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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who's "we"? The State? Why can't you liberals leave people alone?

    Tell me, How much illness, or deaths are caused each year by these rampant, unwashed 7 year olds running roadside lemonade stands? Got a figure on that?
    No, I don't. But then again a roadside lemonade stand may not be the only business a child may try to start in. There are also kids who try to mow lawns for some money. I think the dangers of a child operating a machine designed to turn sharpened blades at high speed is pretty apparent.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    No, I don't. But then again a roadside lemonade stand may not be the only business a child may try to start in. There are also kids who try to mow lawns for some money. I think the dangers of a child operating a machine designed to turn sharpened blades at high speed is pretty apparent.
    Nanny state. Leave em be.

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