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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yeah, because having a kid pay 5 bucks and then giving them educational materials for their own safety and the safety of their customers and others is the epitome of tyranny.
    Yes the statist racketeering scheme which pre-supposes that not only does the state have the right to garnish protection money from the individual but that the state can conceviebly protect customers when in reality it is the consumers who must protect themselves and that the business owner has a vested interest in not poisoning his ****ing customers.

    Now defend your gangster state and its racketeering scheme just no that you are a defender of organized crime.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    the business owner has a vested interest in not poisoning his ****ing customers.
    Which totally explains tobacco companies and Chinese drywall.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    I see both sides on this. I applaud the lemonade stand owner for having some initiative, but on the other hand, nobody knows if this person washed their hands, used clean dishes, etc.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I see both sides on this. I applaud the lemonade stand owner for having some initiative, but on the other hand, nobody knows if this person washed their hands, used clean dishes, etc.
    That is between the business and its customers. The state has no role to play.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    That is between the business and its customers. The state has no role to play.
    That's right. So if you eat a burger that's been spit on by the cook or if you have some soup that's been peed in by the waiters it's your fault. That's the "common sense" they're promoting here.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That's right. So if you eat a burger that's been spit on by the cook or if you have some soup that's been peed in by the waiters it's your fault. That's the "common sense" they're promoting here.
    And how do you propose that the state intervene in such a scenario? Make them watch a safety video?

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    And how do you propose that the state intervene in such a scenario? Make them watch a safety video?
    I think the state should be able to do pretty much what they do now - random health and safety inspections, and fines and penalties for not dealing with them. For some things, such as spitting and peeing on food, the perpetrators should get jail time.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think the state should be able to do pretty much what they do now - random health and safety inspections, and fines and penalties for not dealing with them. For some things, such as spitting and peeing on food, the perpetrators should get jail time.
    I am conflicted to be honest. Health and safety inspections, while a sign of overreach od government, is important to public health and safety. I have eaten at restaurants that deserve to be closed down, and in one case they were. Nasty.

    However, I don't think a 10 year old with a lemonade stand should be required to undergo inspections. Nor should she need a bus. license, which is another thing entirely from inspections. I mean WTF? The objective is to have the girl buy cups, make lemonade and sell it roadside. Not this other nonsense.

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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I think the state should be able to do pretty much what they do now - random health and safety inspections, and fines and penalties for not dealing with them. For some things, such as spitting and peeing on food, the perpetrators should get jail time.

    The "State" is all powerful isn't it?


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    Re: Portland lemonade stand runs into health inspectors, needs $120 license to operat

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I am conflicted to be honest. Health and safety inspections, while a sign of overreach od government, is important to public health and safety. I have eaten at restaurants that deserve to be closed down, and in one case they were. Nasty.

    However, I don't think a 10 year old with a lemonade stand should be required to undergo inspections. Nor should she need a bus. license, which is another thing entirely from inspections. I mean WTF? The objective is to have the girl buy cups, make lemonade and sell it roadside. Not this other nonsense.
    If you will note, I never said that I think this 10-year-old girl running a lemonade stand should undergo inspections. What I said is that she should be required to pay a very small $5 fee to get a general business license for children and be given pamphlets on how to act in a responsible manner that takes her safety and the safety of her customers into account. This way, the government can pursue the public interest, which is the safety and health of the public at large. Should a police officer notice her, he can ask for her child business license as proof that she read those safety precautions. She hands it to him, he sees it, and the government now knows that she can sell to the public with the interests of public safety and health involved. She can go about her business in selling lemonade now.

    Should something bad happened, such as she was selling tainted lemons or was using tainted wanted in making the lemonade, the government has a record of her business license they can use to backtrack the effect of it should they need to. This will advance government response time in pursuing an emergency response. There's nothing sinister about this - it's just in case something bad happens, which very well could.

    It's not that big of a deal to ask her or her parents to pay $5 for a child's business license so she can sell lemonade in order to educate her on basic business and health and safety practices.

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