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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Thank the Unions if it happens... they've been responsible for outsourcing a whole lotta jobs.

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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Wait wait wait, how are UNIONS outsourcing jobs?
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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Thank the Unions if it happens... they've been responsible for outsourcing a whole lotta jobs.

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    You can describe it Tom Steepy... it's called survival, and history is history. Milwaukee can lament losing major businesses because of greedy politicians and unions... and you have only yourself to blame, as you folks voted and encouraged them. The Glorious Unions just might make more history ... how to kill the Goose laying the Golden Eggs... and new History will be written; Texas would be a nice home for Harley Davidson to begin Chapter 2.
    Bleh, Harley's.

    Overpriced, midlife crisis vehicles.
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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Bleh, Harley's.

    Overpriced, midlife crisis vehicles.


    Underpowered, dated technology, poor handling, ass jewelry.
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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    [sarcasm] They wouldn't be having this problem if they'd just hire some illegal aliens. [/sarcasm]
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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Underpowered, dated technology, poor handling, ass jewelry.
    It was kind of a military retirement way of life...grow your hair out, grow a beard, put on 20 pounds, buy a Harley. I went for the Suzuki Intruder 1500 instead (nice compliment to the 650 I already had). Most guys I know that bought Harleys still have them. In their garage. They take em out every once in a while. Eventually they will sell their shiny bikes with the leather braids and cool gadgets and doodads. The bike will have less than 2 miles on em...so...good deal!

    I dont have anything AGAINST Harleys (OK...maybe a little against the Harley owners)...just nothing really FOR em. But it looks like the plant is learning the same lesson every other indiustrial business has to learn. Adapt and change in a realistic manner (including labor, management overhead costs, etc) or die. Or move.

    Regarding Harley owners...I LOVE the rugged "individualist"...the anti-societal outcast attitude...the rebel...the indendent free thinking, free wheeling individuals...all of them...dressed alike in their Harley Davidson boots, scarves, hats, belt buckles, undies, t shirts, wallets, and chains. They dont conform to no damn society pressures!

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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    every contract between labor and management is one which has been negotiated by and signed off on by management?
    why would management agree to terms which are detrimental to the viability of the company ... a reasonable person might ask ...
    to answer that rhetorical question, it would be because management was incompetent and/or because management was willing to cave in order to realize short term benefits while recognizing they probably would not be there long term to face the down side of their contracted agreement
    a non-rhetorical question: why is that the union's fault?
    I don't know. I live in a non-union state, and I negotiate my own employment contractual arrangements.

    I wouldn't know anything about sucking the teet of a union.
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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    It was kind of a military retirement way of life...grow your hair out, grow a beard, put on 20 pounds, buy a Harley. I went for the Suzuki Intruder 1500 instead (nice compliment to the 650 I already had). Most guys I know that bought Harleys still have them. In their garage. They take em out every once in a while. Eventually they will sell their shiny bikes with the leather braids and cool gadgets and doodads. The bike will have less than 2 miles on em...so...good deal!

    I dont have anything AGAINST Harleys (OK...maybe a little against the Harley owners)...just nothing really FOR em. But it looks like the plant is learning the same lesson every other indiustrial business has to learn. Adapt and change in a realistic manner (including labor, management overhead costs, etc) or die. Or move.

    Regarding Harley owners...I LOVE the rugged "individualist"...the anti-societal outcast attitude...the rebel...the indendent free thinking, free wheeling individuals...all of them...dressed alike in their Harley Davidson boots, scarves, hats, belt buckles, undies, t shirts, wallets, and chains. They dont conform to no damn society pressures!


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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Underpowered, dated technology, poor handling, ass jewelry.
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    Re: After 107 years in Milwaukee, Harley could leave

    Maybe people will just buy Yamaha now as they are the superior bikes.
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