Page 96 of 189 FirstFirst ... 46869495969798106146 ... LastLast
Results 951 to 960 of 1882

Thread: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

  1. #951
    Sage
    CriticalThought's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    18,121

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The point was that your statement about marriage being a right is in error.
    The point being, that I listed 4 Supreme Court precedents that state that marriage is a Constitutionally protected right. Whether you like it or not, that is the precedent of this country, and neither side in the Prop 8 case contests that marriage is a fundamental right in this country.

  2. #952
    Sage
    Hicup's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    12-07-17 @ 03:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    7,846

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I agree. Making a blatant logical fallacy is just about as good an argument as marriage shouldn't be a Constitutionally protected right. In my mind they are pretty much equally irrational.
    Oh? What fallacy would that be exactly?

    Tim-
    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” - P. J. O’Rourke
    “Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money” Margaret Thatcher

  3. #953
    Professor
    Groucho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Pocono Mountains, PA
    Last Seen
    05-24-11 @ 03:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    1,363

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I could give a ****, either way, if gays get married. But, at what point can't a judge over-rule the will of the people?
    When it's not an issue that violates the Constitution. Not every vote of the people is a Constitutional issue. If the voters decide to raise or lower a tax in their state, for instance, not much a court can do about that.
    Last edited by Groucho; 08-05-10 at 04:41 PM.

  4. #954
    Sage
    Hicup's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Last Seen
    12-07-17 @ 03:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    7,846

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What the hell is this? Are we trying the "oh the children" argument? If gay marriage is made legal, all the school should say on the issue is the same that is said now, except replace "man and woman" with "2 people". How the hell is this some issue even worth mentioning?
    I don't expect, in fact, I kNOW it is beyond your comprehension.

    Tim-
    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” - P. J. O’Rourke
    “Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money” Margaret Thatcher

  5. #955
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,944

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Gays do realize when you marry you lose freedom not gain it
    Your point?

  6. #956
    Sage
    CriticalThought's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    18,121

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Oh? What fallacy would that be exactly?

    Tim-
    The argumentum ad populum I was citing in the post you quoted.

  7. #957
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Why should the state get to mandate what role my sex plays in marriage?
    because, purely hypothetically, any person might be a pedophile

    for example

    or so obama's doj argued in the central district last june

    Why Does Obama Keep Flip-Flopping on Gay Marriage? - TIME

  8. #958
    Banned Goobieman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Seen
    03-22-15 @ 02:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    17,343

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The point being, that I listed 4 Supreme Court precedents that state that marriage is a Constitutionally protected right.
    And guess what?
    They are necessarily incorrect.
    States do not - indeed, can not - grant rights, they grant privileges.
    No court decision can change that fact. Apply some critical thought and you'll understand.

  9. #959
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I don't expect, in fact, I kNOW it is beyond your comprehension.

    Tim-
    Or is it beyond your ability to explain? Instead of just making an insult, how about you also answer the question?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  10. #960
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    melbourne florida
    Last Seen
    09-24-15 @ 12:15 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    13,156

    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Sooo... you haven't seen these rulings?



    Hey look, I think the govt should be out of the marriage racket altogether. But until they ARE out of the marriage racket, they need to extend the right equally.
    Just another sign that gays want their immoral behavior to be seen as normal

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •