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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is a red herring, as has been shown time and again. Gay marriage and polygamy are not the same thing, not even close.
    That's because you are a bigot against polygamists.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    There is nothing narrow about an 0-31 record of popular vote.
    That is a deceiving statistic. What is the margin of victory in each case? 31 strait 1 % wins is not an overwhelming majority of opinion.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Well, the German people overwhelmingly put the Nazis and Adolf Hitler in power. That didn't make them right either, did it?

    Did you really just Godwin this thread?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I would 100% agree with you. To be honest, I think the real solution is to get rid of the marriage license. The "benefits" which you get through the marriage license can be offered in separate contracts. Cause after all things like hospital visitation or guardianship or kids or any of the stuff that comes with the marriage license, an individual should be able to freely assign. But good luck getting the government to give up the marriage license. And so long as the marriage license exists as a state granted and recognized contract; you can't exclude the gays.
    Never going to happen. Also, you failed to mention things like tax law, which is not something individuals can assign.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    If you want to go through all 4 of those cases and argue why the Supreme Court was wrong in its conclusion that marriage is a Constitutionally protected right, then have at it. I'm sure it would make a good thread. However, you asked for the legal precedent, and it is firmly established. The federal government sees marriage as a fundamental right. Neither side of the Prop 8 case argued that marriage was not a fundamental right.
    No I'd rather not, but it was an interesting exercise to find a way out for the conservative supremes. By the way, precedent doesn't always hold.


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is a deceiving statistic. What is the margin of victory in each case? 31 strait 1 % wins is not an overwhelming majority of opinion.
    You have evidence its always 1%? Because I know that isn't true.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the expressed will of the majorities of 31 of 31 states...

    and NAZIS!

    LOL!
    Argumentum ad populum. "If many believe so, then it is so." That logical fallacy never gets old, especially in this debate.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Zyphlin, equal protection prevails after due process. Due process, is the key here. It is the same as "reasonable" in legal circles. This ruling is due process, but my beef is in the Judges ruling, and the language of it. She cites a lack of due process, but that's not true? Equal protection can be legislated for, "provided" the due process test is met. That's it and that's all.


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why do you care, Navy? I lived in the same state with some 20,000 polygamists, and the sky didn't fall. I see no reason why consenting adults can't marry other consenting adults without Navy Pride or anyone else butting his nose into their marriage.
    Again one more time, now pay attention their might be a test.....The majority of the people (31-0 states and growing) so far have said they don't want the instituion of marriage redefined to a class of people defined by their sexual orientation.......What part of that do you not understand?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No I'd rather not, but it was an interesting exercise to find a way out for the conservative supremes. By the way, precedent doesn't always hold.


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    I doubt that anyone is going to be challenging whether marriage is a Constitutionally protected right in this case.

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