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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Should it not be addressed on the state level first?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Why did you need them to show proof? There is virtually no way that the issue could have gotten to federal court had it not gone through the state courts first.
    I am tired of people throwing out claims and refusing to back up their statements

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    Please, for Gawd sakes, don't invite him back to this thread! The last 5 pages have been him blaming other people for the fact that he was uninformed.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Please, for Gawd sakes, don't invite him back to this thread! The last 5 pages have been him blaming other people for the fact that he was uninformed.
    Sorry....you are absolutely correct.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Please, for Gawd sakes, don't invite him back to this thread! The last 5 pages have been him blaming other people for the fact that he was uninformed.
    No it was about people who will not show proof of their statements

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    It is funny watching people spend more energy making excuses not to show proof then if they had actually showed the proof. Thanks for taking the time.
    It's even funnier watching you bolt from a discussion that's over your head.

    You obviously lack a basic understanding of how state and fed courts function. These are not difficult concepts, the path is mostly linear in an upward direction -- hence the term, 'higher court'. Once a case or issue reaches the end of the road at the state level (state supreme court) AND if there is a legitimate civil rights or interstate commerce issue, then a plaintiff can seek remedy in a higher court -- the federal courts.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No it was about people who will not show proof of their statements
    Dude, no offense, but you were the one who came into this thread and claimed that the issue hadn't gone before states courts before it was overturned by the federal court. You were the one making unsupported claims and then you demanded that people disprove your unsupported claims. The worst part is, common sense and a basic understanding of civics should have lead you to understand that this could not even be a federal case if it hadn't gone through the state courts. The reason you have been getting hammered in this thread is because you came in here uninformed on the issue of discussion and clearly uneducated on the structure of the court system.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Why is the limitation to men and women? Why not children marrying children or children marrying men or women? If you are going to expand equal protection under the law to include sexual orientation you cannot descriminate against any sexual orientation.
    If it shows no benefits to society, or the consequences outweigh the benefits, the government has no reason to sanction it. That's why.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Because if you are creating a new "right" specifcally for sexual orientation you cannot descriminate against any other sexual orientation which includes polygamy.
    Sure you can. This is why I do not buy into the whole discrimination argument. It's a stalemate. The "what's good for both society and individuals inside the society" argument is far cleaner. With this, it is easy to allow things that benefit society, and prevent things that do not. This is why the polygamy argument is easily refuted and is irrelevant.
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