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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    I expect them to rule on the equal protection claim which is a much stronger argument in my opinion.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So the state is not responsible to make sure their laws meet federal standards?
    If the state wishes to inact the law, then they better make sure it does meet those standards. The law was challenged at the federal level, and the ruling is that law did not meet federal (constitutional) standards. Federal courts are the ones who rule on conflicts with federal law, or the US constitution, not state courts.

    The challenge was against the US Constitution, therefore it is decided by federal courts.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    DOMA protects states rights to make their own marrige laws
    DOMA is circling the drain and will probably get flushed soon after Prop 8.

    20 years from now, people who were strongly against gay marriage and adoption will be portrayed in movies similar to Mississippi Burning.

    I don't think every person against gay marriage/rights is a bigot, some are just old fashion and don't really know any gay people. Its a generational thing. Today, even young evangelicals are ready to move forward on this and allow gay couples to go to the same window at city hall that straight people do. You can still define your marriage any way you want.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's the exact opposite of what I said.
    No you said the feds have to step in, where is the states obligation to meet federal law?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No you said the feds have to step in, where is the states obligation to meet federal law?
    Its called the Supremacy clause. Ever heard of it?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Are you at all familiar with the history of the civil rights movement?

    Brown v board of education etc???

    Do you not understand how the state and federal courts function?
    Yes but the state should have to correct it not the feds throw out state laws

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes but the state should have to correct it not the feds throw out state laws
    The state should have got it right before it was challenged then, but it was challenged.. at the FEDERAL level.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The state has an obligation to meet federal law. The state should have done this not the feds
    But if a State does not meet those requirements, then the Federal government will have to step in to make sure that it does. Does that even make sense to you? You seem horrifically caught up on that one point.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    OMG....are you seriously going to play that game. You can look it up yourself...its not that difficult to find. The California Supreme Court took the case a month or so after the election but declined to overturn the law because they said that since it was a Constitutional Amendment there was nothing for them to rule on. They do not address Federal issues.
    You need to back up what you claim

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You say it happened prove it. I will not do your research
    It's not about my research. It's about you getting into a thread without knowing all the facts.

    If you're really interested in knowing the history of Prop 8 and how it got to the fed courts, then do your homework and come back when you better understand everything that led up to yesterday's decision.

    Start with Prop 22.

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