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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You do realize that the legal theory he implemented to enforce this were based on early liberal http://www.debatepolitics.com/newrep...1058897344(See founders of the U.S.) ideas.

    Absolute justice and harmony with in the law.
    He was gay agreeing with a gay issue. He should have rescued himself
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    the legalisms surrounding this question are one thing, they go this way, they go that

    but the politics aren't, they're overwhelmingly one sided

    deal with THAT

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I had no doubt that this would happen. Unfortunately, it seems that the proponents of prop 8 already filed a stay of verdict.
    They have to, otherwise their movement will lose solvency nation wide. They have to save face no matter how stupid they look right now.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I had no doubt that this would happen. Unfortunately, it seems that the proponents of prop 8 already filed a stay of verdict.
    They were working on it well before the release.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    then the majorities of 31 of 31 states are, by your enlightened definition, indecent

    how tolerant, how civil

    do you know anthony wiener?
    I tolerate your thoughts and defend your right to believe that gays are 2nd class citizens. You can, if you wish, drop the f-bomb all you like. It's your right. What I don't tolerate is the use of the ballot box to legalize discrimination against a class of people. Your rights are not restricted in any way, shape, or fashion should two men or two women get married. No one - even the pro-Prop 8 types before a judge - have found a single harm that has occurred as the result of gay people getting married. Massachusetts still has the one of the highest marriage rates and one of the lowest divorce rates in the nation. It didn't drop into the ocean. Iowa is still Iowa. New Hampshire is still New Hampshire, etc.

    If you cannot legally prove the harm, then you have no right to restrict the rights of your fellow, tax-paying, law-abiding citizens.

    I am for freedom. You are not. Call it what you will, but I find the celebration of and the threat of taking rights away from fellow Americans to be indecent at best.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Pl8us he was gay agreeing with a gay issue. He should have recused himself
    But using that logic, a strait judge should have recused himself as well.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Calling out the ruling as being biased because the judge is gay just shows the level of discrimination that still exists in people's minds. If it were a straight judge ruling against GM, proponents of the ban would not remark on his sexuality.

    Judges get their job because they have sworn to uphold state constitutions and balance reason. The slanderous accusation the judge ruled in favor of striking down the ban because he is gay are baseless and only demonstrates the myopia of the right.
    Wrong a judge often rules on personal beliefs it is called activism.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Plus he was gay agreeing with a gay issue. He should have recused himself
    Dude seriously, what has a gay person done to you, for them to receive such treatment?

    What's the point of arguing against this?
    It makes people look childish.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Pl8us he was gay agreeing with a gay issue. He should have recused himself
    Should a straight person have done so as well? Should all black people recuse themselves if there is a question about racial discrimination? Should all women recuse themselves if the issue is about equal pay?

    Somehow it never occurs to you people that maybe judges can make decisions based on the law. Perhaps you should question yourselves. It seems you would make decisions based on your own personal biases and therefore you assume everyone else would, too.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Pl8us he was gay agreeing with a gay issue. He should have recused himself
    And a Catholic should have recused himself because the Pope says gays are bad?

    And a Mormon should have recused himself because her church provided like 75% of the funding for Prop 8?

    Surely, and Evangelical would have to recuse himself because God knows they're pretty biased against the gays.

    So, who - in your opinion - should have heard it?

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