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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I am still waiting for proof
    OMG....are you seriously going to play that game. You can look it up yourself...its not that difficult to find. The California Supreme Court took the case a month or so after the election but declined to overturn the law because they said that since it was a Constitutional Amendment there was nothing for them to rule on. They do not address Federal issues.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Prop 8 is a state issue. This the federal government is abusing power and not letting States have their rights. What about the states rights to govern its people. Marriage is not a federal issue
    PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS:

    State Constitutional Amendments MUST meet the test of the Federal Constitution. PERIOD.

    Romer v. Evans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This has been explained to you so many times that I begin to question your sincerity.

    It really isn't that hard to figure out.

    You can't amend your state's constitution in a way that is contradictory to the federal constitution.

    It really isn't that hard. Dear God, almighty.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Google prop 8. The state supreme court review is old news.
    You say it happened prove it. I will not do your research

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    9th district is most liberal in the land, scotus is scotus

    hello

    look ahead 2 moves

    that's the legalistics

    now, look at the politics, if you dare
    Even with GWB's right-wing activist judges....it is unlikely the Supreme Court is going to have any argument to ban gay marriage.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    There is no constitutionality question, in order to place an initiative on the ballot. That comes later.

    How to Qualify an Initiative - Elections & Voter Information - California Secretary of State




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    Then the state should address it and defend the amenment

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You say it happened prove it. I will not do your research
    Seriously Dude....if you want to participate in the debate, please come prepared. It is not our duty to make sure you are educated so that you can play along. Spend 5 minutes and then come back.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And if the state refuses to do this?
    Show proof California refused

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Even with GWB's right-wing activist judges....it is unlikely the Supreme Court is going to have any argument to ban gay marriage.
    They don't have to rule on gay marriage, only the process, and whether due proces was met. It was, case closed!

    They'll duck it exactly in this manner, watch and see.


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I personally wish both sides would back down and attempt to have some reasonable, honest, discussion.
    How incredibly naive. This is a culture war. The fact of the matter is that the extremists on both sides base their careers on the perpetuation of this culture war. Each side relies on conflict with their supposed enemies for the perpetuation of their own existence. They devote themselves to influencing, fund raising, and organizing, based upon real or perceived attacks from the other side. These "threats" are their oxygen, and without them, they would die.

    Take the National Organization for Marriage for example and its recent bus tour. The entire purpose is to provoke the most militant gay marriage advocates so that they can capture it on film and then use it in future ads or court trials to argue that the gay marriage side is intolerant, dangerous, and ultimately evil, whereas the traditional marriage side is just the vulnerable minority. Why? So that people like Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown can continue to draw a paycheck as the whole issue is perpetuated. Those people don't really care about preserving traditional marriage. If they did, then they would have sought laws against divorce in order to bring an end to serial monogamy and tried to criminalize infidelity.

    There is no room for common ground here because both sides have dehumanized each other. Both sides view the other side as evil.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You say it happened prove it. I will not do your research
    In other words, you are arguing a topic you know nothing about...leaning on your emotional response to the icky gays to carry you through, dropping buzzwords and soundbytes with no knowledge of why they are important, and refusing to educate yourself on the matter at all.

    That's called attention whoring. It also means I am done with it and I suggest everyone else do the same.

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