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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Explain why a federal judge is ruling over a state issue
    It's a check to ensure that State law is in compliance with the Federal Constitution.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You can not lose what you never had
    We've always had the right to contract.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Explain why a federal judge is ruling over a state issue
    Simple. State laws have to comply with the requirements of the United States Constitution.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Both are hypothetical constructs used to describe behavioral intentions, desires or preferences.
    I agree with this statement.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Huh? The key word is mght, clearly, but it carries a heavy weight in your analysis. We choose to do things everyday based on what "might" happen in the future, don't we? Don't you?

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    We do choose things every day on what MIGHT happen in the future. However we do not base immediete actions on SOLELY what may happen in the future without any thought about the present.

    I know I need to eat food. Now, there's a possability that when I go and make a Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich that the nuts MIGHT be affected by some kind of bacterial infrection that could cause me severe illness, or the shrimp I have in the fridge may've been in there too long and spoiled and MIGHT also cause me harm. However, that does not necessarily mean I simply should not eat because these are possabilities that MIGHT happen.

    Let us take something from recent times, the Patriot Act.

    The Patriot Act provided a much needed upgrade to our intelligence laws, but it also expanded the power of the government. Lets assume however that you felt such a thing was "needed" and "correct".

    Lets say however you also agreed with the notion others had that by giving the government more power than inevitably that could be used to give them more power and after that inevitably for a President to declare a state of emergency and become essentially a king.

    Does that mean you should not support the Patriot Act, which you strongly and principely felt was a needed and good measure, simply because of something that MIGHT happen in the future if people acted wrongly and twisted it to proportions that it doesn't actually allow?

    Not in the least.

    That is similar to here.

    Many of us feel that marriage between two individuals regardless of sex is correct, right, and constitutional. As such, we support that.

    However, the fact that the standard for Equal Protection could maybe somehow possibly be manipulated and wrongly used for abortion doesn't mean I should not support it. It means that if someone tries that I should fight against it.

    You should not NOT do something that you firmly believing is right simply because there's some kind of change that someone at some point will try to do something that is not right by manipulating that which you agreed with.

    If that is the case, we should never do anything, at any time, because there is ALWAYS a way to create a doomsday scenario where taking any action could cause a bad reaction.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Because it violates the federal Constitution.
    Prop 8 is a state issue. This the federal government is abusing power and not letting States have their rights. What about the states rights to govern its people. Marriage is not a federal issue

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's a check to ensure that State law is in compliance with the Federal Constitution.
    Bull it is the feds not letting the state govern its people

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Simple. State laws have to comply with the requirements of the United States Constitution.
    The state should have been given the first appeal not the feds. The state supreme court should have ruled the feds as usual are taking away the states rights

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Prop 8 is a state issue. This the federal government is abusing power and not letting States have their rights. What about the states rights to govern its people. Marriage is not a federal issue
    States can not violate the Constitution.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    States can not violate the Constitution.
    This is a state issue it should have went to state court first

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