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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Again, we are not a pure democracy, we are a Republic. And built upon the adherence to the rights and liberties of the individual. The ban on gay marriage infringes upon right to contract of the individual. It doesn't matter if elected officials, or the majority of Americans do not like it. They have no just position to argue against it from. Not so long as marriage remains a government issued and recognized contract.
    and the supreme court is likely to find otherwise

    so there ya go

    meanwhile, all the americans who don't share your particular idealism are gonna have their say, too

    via ballot box

    congrats, once again!

    it's a happy moment, no?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I was expecting a shriek of MARVELOUS from some quarters.
    Damn you for making me laugh like that.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    and the supreme court is likely to find otherwise
    And you base this on what evidence?

    meanwhile, all the americans who don't share your particular idealism are gonna have their say, too

    via ballot box
    So people should put away their idealism in favor of getting votes? Nice to know...

    it's a happy moment, no?
    Damn right it is.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    and the supreme court is likely to find otherwise

    so there ya go

    meanwhile, all the americans who don't share your particular idealism are gonna have their say, too

    via ballot box

    congrats, once again!

    it's a happy moment, no?
    It doesn't matter who they vote in. The government is bound by the Constitution and is required to adhere to the rights and liberties of the individual. You cannot vote in bigotry, you cannot make laws which discriminate against certain populations. It would be like saying 58% of New Yorkers believe that slavery should be brought back, and thus it should be brought back. Of course it's a retarded position, we know it doesn't matter what the majority at that point wants or who is in office. Majority rules so long as they do not infringe upon the minority's rights. That's that. That is the reality of the system we live under. We'll see how the SCOTUS votes; but as it stands marriage is a government issued and recognized contract, and so long as that remains true you have no just means by which you can infringe uopn an indivudual's right to contract.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    and the supreme court is likely to find otherwise

    so there ya go

    meanwhile, all the americans who don't share your particular idealism are gonna have their say, too

    via ballot box

    congrats, once again!

    it's a happy moment, no?
    Decent Americans around the nation applaud the expansion of freedom and liberty instead of making vague threats of stealing away fellow citizen's rights.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Who would have thought a gay judge would rule for gays. No bias on the judges part.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I wonder what this will mean for the other states that have banned GM.
    I could be wrong, but I think nothing, yet. This was a state supreme court, so it won't directly affect other states until it hits the fed Supreme Court. Again, I could be wrong, but that's my impression.

    BTW, I'm quite disappointed, I came here to argue with religious zealots, and instead I find a quite reasonable discussion about voter's rights. Just to weigh in on that, I think slavery is a fine (albeit extreme) example of the need to value civil rights over the will of the people.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Decent Americans around the nation applaud the expansion of freedom and liberty instead of making vague threats of stealing away fellow citizen's rights.
    then the majorities of 31 of 31 states are, by your enlightened definition, indecent

    how tolerant, how civil

    do you know anthony wiener?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Well obviously it's much harder to be bigoted against yourself than it is to be bigoted about a group of people you don't understand. Cool pup btw
    Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. -Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Who would have thought a gay judge would rule for gays. No bias on the judges part.
    So if it had been a strait judge, and ruled the other way, would that have been bias?
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