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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    One unelected judge can overturn the will of the people. A flaw in our system? I think so.
    It isn't "the judge" overturning the will of the people....it is our Constitution. Big difference.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Anytime one of the supporters of this "ruling" can show me anywhere in the Constitution where it addresses alternative lifestyles or sexual orientation feel free to quote it.

    The sham of this ruling along with every other gay marriage ruling allowing it is the bastardization of the law. Only race has been decided on marriage cases and an Amendment against racial discrimination.

    Homosexual marriage has no law to back it up, no Constitutional quote it can read from. That is the reality and why this is an activist judge ruling not one based in law. The very fact she used her own interpretation on what rational means shows she had no leg to stand on in the law and instead fabricated her ruling based on personal opinion not law.
    What part of our Constitution makes it possible for a majority to vote away the benefits or rights of a section of the population?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Anytime one of the supporters of this "ruling" can show me anywhere in the Constitution where it addresses alternative lifestyles or sexual orientation feel free to quote it.

    The sham of this ruling along with every other gay marriage ruling allowing it is the bastardization of the law. Only race has been decided on marriage cases and an Amendment against racial discrimination.

    Homosexual marriage has no law to back it up, no Constitutional quote it can read from. That is the reality and why this is an activist judge ruling not one based in law. The very fact she used her own interpretation on what rational means shows she had no leg to stand on in the law and instead fabricated her ruling based on personal opinion not law.
    Neither did inter-racial marriage when the bigots were opposing that on the same grounds.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its lost every single time it was up to a popular vote. 0-31. Those of us against gay marriage are in the clear majority.
    Dwindling quickly.....very quickly. Just look at the numbers over the last 10 years. You are losing in both forums.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Anytime one of the supporters of this "ruling" can show me anywhere in the Constitution where it addresses alternative lifestyles or sexual orientation feel free to quote it.

    The sham of this ruling along with every other gay marriage ruling allowing it is the bastardization of the law. Only race has been decided on marriage cases and an Amendment against racial discrimination.

    Homosexual marriage has no law to back it up, no Constitutional quote it can read from. That is the reality and why this is an activist judge ruling not one based in law. The very fact she used her own interpretation on what rational means shows she had no leg to stand on in the law and instead fabricated her ruling based on personal opinion not law.
    The will of the people is the Constitution of the United States of America, not a ballot measure passed by a slim majority of California voters, nor any other ballot measure passed in any other state. The judge determined that the will of the voters in California violated the rights of a minority guaranteed by the federal Constitution. Those rights were equal protection under the law as guaranteed by the Equal Protection Clause and the right to Due Process. You are right that "alternative lifestyles" and "marriage" are not discussed in the Constitution. The Constitution also doesn't say anything about race, so your point is moot. The law is written, "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Are gays and lesbians considered persons and citizens of the United States of America? Then by the Constitution, they are entitled to equal protection of the law. The judge defended the will of the people, the federal Constitution; he did not overturn it.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Anytime one of the supporters of this "ruling" can show me anywhere in the Constitution where it addresses alternative lifestyles or sexual orientation feel free to quote it.

    The sham of this ruling along with every other gay marriage ruling allowing it is the bastardization of the law. Only race has been decided on marriage cases and an Amendment against racial discrimination.

    Homosexual marriage has no law to back it up, no Constitutional quote it can read from. That is the reality and why this is an activist judge ruling not one based in law. The very fact she used her own interpretation on what rational means shows she had no leg to stand on in the law and instead fabricated her ruling based on personal opinion not law.
    First, the judge is a man. Also a man who was nominated to the position by both Ronald Reagan and George Bush I.
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    I'm happy that you're happy!

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I imagine you enjoy your freedom of religion, assembly, speech, to bear arms, etc. and I would hate to imagine that you would be pleased to see them taken away simply because a majority of people in your state decided it was better off not to have them.
    ... or simply because a lone judge in my district decided it was better not to have them.

    No, not pleased at all to have them taken away no matter who is doing the taking.

    We've all got our own ideas of what freedoms are guaranteed by the Constitution. The opinion of the judge who decided the case this morning is worth maybe a smidge more than yours or mine, but not by much. We'll never as a nation come to an agreement on "what the Constitution says" -- but at least with the SC decision, we will know how it's going to be enforced, for better or for worse.
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    Re: I'm happy that you're happy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    ... or simply because a lone judge in my district decided it was better not to have them.

    No, not pleased at all to have them taken away no matter who is doing the taking.

    We've all got our own ideas of what freedoms are guaranteed by the Constitution. The opinion of the judge who decided the case this morning is worth maybe a smidge more than yours or mine, but not by much. We'll never as a nation come to an agreement on "what the Constitution says" -- but at least with the SC decision, we will know how it's going to be enforced, for better or for worse.
    As a nation of laws we need a single legal interpretation of the law, including the Constitution. That is the point of our judicial system.
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    Re: I'm happy that you're happy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    ... or simply because a lone judge in my district decided it was better not to have them.

    No, not pleased at all to have them taken away no matter who is doing the taking.

    We've all got our own ideas of what freedoms are guaranteed by the Constitution. The opinion of the judge who decided the case this morning is worth maybe a smidge more than yours or mine, but not by much. We'll never as a nation come to an agreement on "what the Constitution says" -- but at least with the SC decision, we will know how it's going to be enforced, for better or for worse.
    Ah, for once we agree. The Supreme Court will indeed ultimately decide whether same sex couples, as citizens and persons of the United States are entitled to equal protection under the law and due process when it comes to marriage.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What part of our Constitution makes it possible for a majority to vote away the benefits or rights of a section of the population?
    The very same that says you can't smoke dope.. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

    Those that equate homosexuality with that of gender, and slavery are so off base, it make my stomach boil. There is no evidence of that at all.

    The deviants have won this battle from a queer judge... Go figure?

    The fact is that the ballot initiative was approved as "CONSTITUTIONALY" valid. Hence the constitution was made crystal clear. It is not unconstitutional to define marriage between one man, ,and one woman. This judge is a queer fella that voted what one would expect a queer fellla to vote.


    It ain't over!

    By the way, those claiming that bigots lost, are themselves bigots. Or, they clearly do not know what a bigot, is!


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