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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Oh good god, please. Do you know how stupid that sounds? The Consitution is a document. The "will of the people" is public opinion. The Constitution can certainly be shaped by "the will of the people" but the two aren't the same thing.
    What was that you were saying about not understanding things?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Oh, you're right. The will of just over half of Californians should overrule the document that our nation was founded upon.
    Yes, I am right. Just not for the reasons in your delusions.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I'm wondering why the hell the gubberment has it's nose in it in the first place. Marriage, and issues as such, should be left up to the churches, and in the secular arena, two consenting adults.

    Today's whackos might think it's a liberal victory but I think Goldwater is probably doing handstands as true conservatism has risen again. Government has no place mandating in matters of the heart and morals of the masses.
    The government has an interest in promoting stable relationships which provide stable homes for children. It is beneficial to the welfare and structure of society. Marriage is not a mandate, it is a chosen contract. Couples can choose to abstain from it if they wish.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes, I am right. Just not for the reasons in your delusions.
    Interesting. So you think the public opinion of a slim majority in California should override the rights guranteed by the federal Constituion?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Interesting. So you think the public opinion of a slim majority in California should override the rights guranteed by the federal Constituion?
    I don't know of anyone making that claim. Pity for you and FFG!

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Anytime one of the supporters of this "ruling" can show me anywhere in the Constitution where it addresses alternative lifestyles or sexual orientation feel free to quote it.

    The sham of this ruling along with every other gay marriage ruling allowing it is the bastardization of the law. Only race has been decided on marriage cases and an Amendment against racial discrimination.

    Homosexual marriage has no law to back it up, no Constitutional quote it can read from. That is the reality and why this is an activist judge ruling not one based in law. The very fact she used her own interpretation on what rational means shows she had no leg to stand on in the law and instead fabricated her ruling based on personal opinion not law.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Interesting. So you think the public opinion of a slim majority in California should override the rights guranteed by the federal Constituion?
    Its lost every single time it was up to a popular vote. 0-31. Those of us against gay marriage are in the clear majority.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its lost every single time it was up to a popular vote. 0-31. Those of us against gay marriage are in the clear majority.
    So? Be in the majority all you want. The majority cannot vote away equal protection of minority groups.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I don't know of anyone making that claim. Pity for you and FFG!
    It appeared to me that was what you were arguing. I'm happy we can agree that the Constituion of the United States should take precedence over a majority of California voters. I imagine you enjoy your freedom of religion, assembly, speech, to bear arms, etc. and I would hate to imagine that you would be pleased to see them taken away simply because a majority of people in your state decided it was better off not to have them. It's a good thing those freedoms have been the will of the people of the United States since the Constitution was ratified and up until now. At any time, the people could have amended the United States Constitution to remove those rights, but they have not. And I am quite happy that it was the will of the people of the United States to amend the Constitution to include the Equal Protection Clause so that we could all be equally protected under the law, whether state or federal, and that up to this day it has been the will of the people not to amend the Constitution and repeal that amendment.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I could give a ****, either way, if gays get married. But, at what point can't a judge over-rule the will of the people?
    When it doesn't violate the Constitution. That was an easy question.
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