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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    You're anthropomorphizing. The Constitution said nothing of the sort. The judge said "the people" were wrong.
    I was continuing a phrase some one else used in rebutting them. That is what these quote boxes are for, so you can see what people are referencing.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I was continuing a phrase some one else used in rebutting them. That is what these quote boxes are for, so you can see what people are referencing.
    A piece of advice - don't "continue phrases" you don't understand.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    A piece of advice - don't "continue phrases" you don't understand.
    If I ever run into that situation, I will remember your advice.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    You're anthropomorphizing. The Constitution said nothing of the sort. The judge said "the people" were wrong. The earlier question is a good one... "at what point can't a judge over-rule the will of the people?"

    I suppose the answer is... when you're a SC justice and a majority of your very small circle of peers disagree with you on what the law should be.
    The will of the people was not overturned. This country is a Constitutional Republic. The will of the people is the Constitution of the United States of America, not a ballot measure passed by a slim majority of California voters. The judge determined that the will of those voters violated the rights of a minority guaranteed by the federal Constitution. Those rights were equal protection under the law as guaranteed by the Equal Protection Clause and the right to Due Process. The judge defended the will of the people, the federal Constitution; he did not overturn it.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If I ever run into that situation, I will remember your advice.
    Of course... if you don't understand the phrase, you won't know not to continue it... silly me.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Of course... if you don't understand the phrase, you won't know not to continue it... silly me.
    You are confused, again.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The will of the people was not overturned. This country is a Constitutional Republic. The will of the people is the Constitution of the United States of America.
    Oh good god, please. Do you know how stupid that sounds? The Consitution is a document. The "will of the people" is public opinion. The Constitution can certainly be shaped by "the will of the people" but the two aren't the same thing.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Oh good god, please. Do you know how stupid that sounds? The Consitution is a document. The "will of the people" is public opinion. The Constitution can certainly be shaped by "the will of the people" but the two aren't the same thing.
    Oh, you're right. The will of just over half of Californians should overrule the document that our nation was founded upon.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Oh good god, please. Do you know how stupid that sounds? The Consitution is a document. The "will of the people" is public opinion. The Constitution can certainly be shaped by "the will of the people" but the two aren't the same thing.
    Like it or not, the Constituion of the United States is the will of the people. It is the law of the land. The founding fathers understood how easily public opinion could be swayed by rhetoric and so they sought to make this country a Constitutional Repubic rather than a democracy. As such, everyone who is sworn into service of this country is sworn to protect the Constitution. It is no mere document, but the very social contract by which our government is legitmized through its duty to protect our individual rights and liberty. If you can't understand that much, then you may be in the wrong country.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    I'm wondering why the hell the gubberment has it's nose in it in the first place. Marriage, and issues as such, should be left up to the churches, and in the secular arena, two consenting adults.

    Today's whackos might think it's a liberal victory but I think Goldwater is probably doing handstands as true conservatism has risen again. Government has no place mandating in matters of the heart and morals of the masses.

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