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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I could give a ****, either way, if gays get married. But, at what point can't a judge over-rule the will of the people?
    When the constitution says the people are wrong, the judge has a duty to overrule them.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    The people opposed to GM have consistently demonstrated in this thread that they don't really understand the nature of this ruling, or U.S. law in general. They just want their morality to reign supreme but they cannot really tell us why today's ruling was wrong or "activism" anymore than they can tell us why GM itself should not be allowed.

    More emotional appeals, more argument ad populum. It's really pedantic. I actually encourage them to keep it up... their reasoning is so faulty that they will be easily defeated in SCOTUS.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When the constitution says the people are wrong, the judge has a duty to overrule them.


    There's a place in the Constitution where it says that people are wrong? Care to point that out for me?
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    One unelected judge can overturn the will of the people. A flaw in our system? I think so.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I could give a ****, either way, if gays get married. But, at what point can't a judge over-rule the will of the people?
    When the federal Constitution says otherwise. The federal Constitution is the will of the people.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's a place in the Constitution where it says that people are wrong? Care to point that out for me?
    It depends on what people say. In this case, the constitution's due process and equal protection clauses said the people where wrong.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's a place in the Constitution where it says that people are wrong? Care to point that out for me?
    In this case, Walker argued that California was violating the Equal Protections Clause and Due Process of the Constitution by passing Proposition 8. Walker had a duty to defend the rights inherent in the federal Constitution. What you fail to understand is that this is not a democracy, but a Constitutional Republic, and as such, our federal Constitution is the will of the people. The judge was defending the will of the people.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    When the federal Constitution says otherwise. The federal Constitution is the will of the people.
    Where does the Constitution even address marriage?

    Alls they have to do is re-word it and run it on the next ballot. That's all Obama did with his drilling moratorium, right?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    The Constitution guarantees equal protection under the law and due process. That applies to the legality of marriage.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In this case, the constitution's due process and equal protection clauses said the people where wrong.
    You're anthropomorphizing. The Constitution said nothing of the sort. The judge said "the people" were wrong. The earlier question is a good one... "at what point can't a judge over-rule the will of the people?"

    I suppose the answer is... when you're a SC justice and a majority of your very small circle of peers disagree with you on what the law should be.
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