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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Let's be fair to friend Tex please. His full comment was this:

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Yep. Another activist judge overthrowing the will of the people for a second time based on nothing but their own personal politics.
    Note the second half to his paragraph. He is not saying that the ruling was wrong based on the will of the people, but because of the judges personal politics, the will of the people was overturned. He is still wrong, but let's argue against him based on what he actually said.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let's be fair to friend Tex please. His full comment was this:



    Note the second half to his paragraph. He is not saying that the ruling was wrong based on the will of the people, but because of the judges personal politics, the will of the people was overturned. He is still wrong, but let's argue against him based on what he actually said.
    The judge applied justice, the will of the people does not matter.

    /thread

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    whenever it's been tried, gay marriage has failed before the votership, 31 for 31

    congrats on your transient legal victory

    the consequences will be electoral, nation wide

    once again, the elites know best, voters be damned

    happy day!

    seeya in november---in michigan, pennsylvania, missouri, delaware, arkansas...

    america's watching
    Again, we are not a pure democracy, we are a Republic. And built upon the adherence to the rights and liberties of the individual. The ban on gay marriage infringes upon right to contract of the individual. It doesn't matter if elected officials, or the majority of Americans do not like it. They have no just position to argue against it from. Not so long as marriage remains a government issued and recognized contract.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    whenever it's been tried, gay marriage has failed before the votership, 31 for 31

    congrats on your transient legal victory

    the consequences will be electoral, nation wide

    once again, the elites know best, voters be damned

    happy day!

    seeya in november---in michigan, pennsylvania, missouri, delaware, arkansas...

    america's watching
    And voters used to approve bans on inter-racial marriage. Voters used to approve slavery. Voters used to approve laws that didn't allow women to vote.

    Bigots always lose in the end. They will this time as well.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    whenever it's been tried, gay marriage has failed before the votership, 31 for 31
    This is not a mater for the electoral arena any more than freedom of speech is for the KKK.

    seeya in november---in michigan, pennsylvania, missouri, delaware, arkansas...

    america's watching
    You mean you predict a victory for bigotry? How could they be watching, having their heads up each others' asses.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The judge applied justice, the will of the people does not matter.

    /thread

    I am not arguing that point, but Tex was not arguing the ruling was wrong because of the will of the people.

    Yes, it pains me to defend him, but it is the right thing to do, and sometimes the right thing to do is difficult.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let's be fair to friend Tex please. His full comment was this:



    Note the second half to his paragraph. He is not saying that the ruling was wrong based on the will of the people, but because of the judges personal politics, the will of the people was overturned. He is still wrong, but let's argue against him based on what he actually said.
    But he gave no reason for such a statement. The judge filed a long opinion detailing the law and giving legal reasons for the decision. Tex (who I will bet had not read the decision at the time of his post) just automatically assumed that the judge must have used personal politics instead of the law.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    In my search to learn more of Judge Walker, besides being nominated by GHW Bush and being confirmed on unanimous consent in 1989, I came across this...

    Vaughn Walker almost lost his chance to reach the federal bench because of claims that he was anti-gay and hostile to civil rights. Two dozen House Democrats, led by Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, opposed his nomination because of his alleged "insensitivity" to gays and the poor. His first appointment, from President Ronald Reagan in 1987, stalled out in the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Gay judge has proven record of impartiality - SFGate


    Ironic?
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    You guessed right, and my post is loosly based on that (as much of it as I can remember of it), with a little extra thrown in. BTW, I loved that show.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    This is not a mater for the electoral arena any more than freedom of speech is for the KKK.

    You mean you predict a victory for bigotry? How could they be watching, having their heads up each others' asses.
    This is another one. I am ecstatic about this ruling. Every one who knows me on this board knows that gay issues are important to me. However, it is perfectly possible to oppose gay marriage without being bigoted, or for bigoted reasons. Let's leave the over the top rhetoric to the other guys, then laugh at them for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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