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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Once more, I am amused by your apparent glee when losing
    if it's such a winner (LOL!) why won't barry embrace it?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    if it's such a winner (LOL!) why won't barry embrace it?
    That's not relevant.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's not relevant.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    You can't infringe upon people's right to vote. Should we repeal child consent ages? Because you infringe upon a 13 year old's right to have sex with grannies/grandpa's if he finds them attractive. Laws are enforced morality that are deemed to be moral by society. Anything could be claimed as a "right."
    I'm not infringing upon people's right to vote, nor calling for such a thing. Please stay on target. However, we are not a pure democracy, and as such the will of the majority is tempered by the rights of the minority. Thus even if the majority votes for something, if it violates the rights of the individual it is not allowed to be proper law.

    And BTW, age of consent laws are not in place to protect certain societal morality, but rather to protect right to contract.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    It occurs in nature, therefore, it is natural
    obama's doj would be quick to point out---so does incest, so does pedophilia

    hey, i didn't say it

    LOL!

    HOLDER did

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Um yes, their right to their votes was infringed upon. They voted, it passed, and then the court ruled that people actually don't have the right to vote on marriage and that it's illegal to say and define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.
    We're a Constitutional Republic, not a pure Democracy. Time to learn the difference.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Blankenhorn thus sets up a dichotomy for the definition
    of marriage: either marriage is defined as a socially approved
    sexual relationship between a man and a woman for the purpose of
    bearing and raising children biologically related to both spouses,
    or marriage is a private relationship between two consenting
    adults. Blankenhorn did not address the definition of marriage
    proposed by plaintiffs’ expert Cott, which subsumes Blankenhorn’s
    dichotomy. Cott testified that marriage is “a couple’s choice to
    live with each other, to remain committed to one another, and to
    form a household based on their own feelings about one another, and
    their agreement to join in an economic partnership and support one
    another in terms of the material needs of life.”
    Prop 8 proponents' only witness gives nothing but opinion and even manages to contradict himself.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    He spun the Constitution to fit a belief that was comfortable for him. Many federal judges have disagreed in that other states who passed similar things had their propositions put into law and opposition was struck down in court. You can spin the Constitution to mean just about anything if you want.


    I would like to see proof that the majority didn't agree with the civil rights movement. And the civil rights movement is not equal with the homosexual movement. Marriage is largely a social construct, why is it wrong to ask society to legally define it when there is confusion among the state? Why does the government have no rights to deny gays the right to marry? If I remember correctly Clinton signed into law DOMA, which federally defines marriage as traditional. However, the federal government doesn't infringe upon the rights of state's to define marriage for themselves. I would have no objection if the majority of California voted against proposition 8 and later voted to legally define marriage as a union between anyone of any sexual orientation. My issue is that the voters voted and the proposition was not found to be unconstitutional. California Dems were surprised when they saw that Prop 8 passed, so they went to plan B and had a gay judge wrongfully rule that it is unconstitutional for people to have a voice.
    No, he didn't. Unless you don't like equal rights.

    And yes it is. If you believe that the government can allow people rights, and deny other people rights based solely on sexuality, then the government can also deny rights based on skin color, religion, etc. And don't tell me that in the 1950's if there was a vote in the southern states to repeal Jim Crow they would of done it. If you believe so then crack open a history textbook because you've got alot to learn. Rights should not be voted on, they are guaranteed by the Constitution, and no majority should be able to vote them away. DOMA was wrong, I don't care who signed it. And saying marriage is a social construct doesn't give you any backing either. Gay people are apart of society too, and their rights shouldn't be infringed upon just because the majority of society wants it too. If the majority of society wanted to take away a right of yours would you be okay to allow that up to a vote?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    obama's doj would be quick to point out---so does incest, so does pedophilia

    hey, i didn't say it

    LOL!

    HOLDER did


    Hey bro, I got him to wave at ya.

    Now can we get past your obsession with him.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You know not everything is about your beloved Obama.
    news to him

    but i can sure understand your wish to avoid looking at it, looking at him

    i mean, right here and now

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