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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I resent you putting words in my mouth I have not said any of that. Is that how you show hate to those that disagree with you?
    I didn't say you did but if you did, I wouldn't care.
    That's the point, you can not like it and be the most offensive person in the world to gay people.
    It wouldn't bother me one bit.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm a biologist, I know very well what I am talking about.
    And that makes you a legal scholar, how?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm a biologist, I know very well what I am talking about.
    Being a biologist has nothing to do with this, is their biological proof that being gay isn't natural? You should actually talk a bunch of gay people because they are the ones who can tell you the facts.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    That only pertains to MA

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No they are not. They just want to be left alone by religious zealots and their dark age fantasies of imposing Teh Almighteh GAWD!!! upon their private lives. You are having nothing imposed on you as long as you stay the hell out of a gay wedding and don't marry a gay.
    Yes they are. They want to impose their definition of marriage upon everyone at the legal level. They are left alone by zealots. It isn't illegal to be gay. And if I was in California I would absolutely have this imposed on me. I would have voted for Prop 8, my vote would contribute to it's passing. Having a judge rule my beliefs to be unconstitutional and repeal a proposition that the majority of people legally voted for is absolutely an imposition of morals and a violation of my rights as a voter.
    As for the rest of your appeal to nature...its a fallacy. Until you add the requirement of procreation to the marriage license, you have no point with that little rant.
    I was asked one non religious valid opinion to oppose gay marriage. The fact that homosexual unions are obviously and biologically different from hetero unions is enough to prevent them from being considered the same union at the legal level. The issue is that there really wasn't a legal definition for marriage until Prop 8 came along and asked the voters to decide what marriage is. However, those people had their rights as voters revoked and their beliefs ruled to be illegal because some judge wanted to ram his beliefs down everyone's throat. This case is being brought to the appeals court, and I hope to the supreme court, where the voters will have their rights re-instated and the constitutionality of state's rights being properly put back in place.
    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    And that makes you a legal scholar, how?
    I was responding to someone saying I had no idea what I was talking about when I stated homosexuality was unnatural. Legally speaking, the gay marriage bans across the country have been challenged and found to be perfectly in line with the Constitution. I'm just saying either the majority of judges who ruled it was ok to define marriage are legally stupid, or this judge in California is being an activist judge (and the facts would add up to support that position).
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Who cares if being gay isn't "natural"? Are they people, Mr. Biologist? Does the 14th amendment not guarantee equality for all "people"? Being handicapped is not natural either, so should we prevent handicapped people from getting married too?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    It doesn't matter biologically since legally you can't infringe upon the rights of others; which includes the right to contract. There is no restriction on marriage that it be biologically viable. So we can just quit being stupid about that line.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    But do you think someone with openly far right anti-gay views could unbiasedly rule on a gay marriage issue? Would you want a right wing partisan judge to rule on the Patriot Act if that was brought to court?


    So then why is it ok for homosexuals and those who support it to force their beliefs that homosexual unions equate with hetero marriage down everyone's throats? An inclusive definition does not mean that the definition itself is not imposing beliefs. All laws impose beliefs upon others. Marriage is a social thing that is put into law by society. So, California asked society to define marriage. They didn't hear what they wanted, so plan B was to make it illegal to have an opinion against gay marriage anyway. Please, don't be blind to the obvious bias and bigotry that is being purported by the homosexual agenda in California.
    But the thing is, he didn't say I'm gay I oppose it. He used constitutional law.

    Also it doesn't matter if the majority don't agree with it. The majority didn't agree with the civil rights movement, but you wouldn't say that was a bad thing would you? It was stupid to put it up to a vote anyway, it was unconstitutional, and wrong. The fact is that the government has no right to deny gays the right to marry. You have nothing but a religious argument to stand on, and that will get laughed out of court. Procreation isn't a prerequisite for marriage, and gay people can have children anyway. It may be harder but it can happen. Your trying to impose your beliefs on people, not the other way around. You could use the same argument against integration, " well I don't wanna be around black people, so we should keep Jim Crow in tact. They might think we should integrate, but they shouldn't impose their beliefs on me" The opposition to gay marriage hasn't a leg to stand on, and hopefully the courts will recognize that.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    You realize DOMA was overturned, right?
    no thanks to barry

    his doj in the central district in 2009 compared gay marriage to pedophilia and incest

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