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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Thats an opinion not a fact.
    It is consistent with observation

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    You can't deny a right under the 14th ammendment by what "might" happen.
    That's true, but we've seen this play out several times. So it's not so much what "might" happen; but a practical expectation from the practice itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Exactly. Just as gay marriage is outlawed in over 25 states.
    You'd have a stronger case if entrance into the Republic required making same sex marriage illegal.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    hard to believe that theres that many, shocking actually but this country does have a lot of sheep in it
    I retracted the comment, since I realized it was irrelvant to his argument of gay being percieved as deviant.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Go back and read the equal protection clause. Once again you jump into a conversation with half the knowledge you need to sustain an argument. This is about who gets to marry and why. The argument being used here is the Equal Protection Clause under the 14th ammendment.



    Epic fail The equal protection clause does not mention an age limit.

    Once again you fail miserably to read the required documentation.



    Yes. Your inability to read the facts of the case and understanding it is quite a hole.
    Tex, YOU are the one who doesn't understand the 14th Amendment equal protection clause + precedent. You're making things up. Children have very few rights according to law. Most rights are bestowed upon parents. They have a right to not be abused and molested. They have a right to be educated. Their right to privacy is limited vs. an adults based on SCOTUS decisions. And they cannot enter into a contract until 18 (younger in some states).

    You're still just making things up and hoping that they'll stick. Your concern gets more and more disingenuous as this argument goes on.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I retracted the comment, since I realized it was irrelevance to his argument of gay being percieved as deviant.
    well i agree and so does history it is irrelevant hard sometimes not to debate things that have no bearing on the real issue
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I already showed that you misrepresented the CDC study.
    No you didn't because you can't disprove its findings.

    You never got out of the starting block with this debate, but we all know you'll never admit that you don't have clue. Even though anyone who understands this debate can see it.
    Out of the starting block? I lapped you 2 days ago
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Tex, YOU are the one who doesn't understand the 14th Amendment equal protection clause + precedent. You're making things up. Children have very few rights according to law. Most rights are bestowed upon parents. They have a right to not be abused and molested. They have a right to be educated. Their right to privacy is limited vs. an adults based on SCOTUS decisions. And they cannot enter into a contract until 18 (younger in some states).
    I'll say it again real slow just for you. the Equal protection clause has no age limit. How is that so hard for you to understand?

    You're still just making things up and hoping that they'll stick. Your concern gets more and more disingenuous as this argument goes on.
    What have I made up? Produce it.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No you didn't because you can't disprove its findings.
    Don't you dare bring up that HIV bull**** again. It's over. Risky behaviors, not sexual orientation.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It is consistent with observation
    Your observation. Again not a fact.

    That's true, but we've seen this play out several times. So it's not so much what "might" happen; but a practical expectation from the practice itself.
    What decesion are you referring to?

    You'd have a stronger case if entrance into the Republic required making same sex marriage illegal.
    And the other side's case would be stronger if same sex marriage was legal but there is no law and no decesion before this one citing the 14th ammendment as justification for gay marriage. That is why other groups can use it the exact same way.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Don't you dare bring up that HIV bull**** again. It's over. Risky behaviors, not sexual orientation.
    Actually it was over when the findings found a greater risk factor for gay men than any other group. How you continue to miss this is really quite strange.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Your observation. Again not a fact.
    General observation actually.

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    And the other side's case would be stronger if same sex marriage was legal but there is no law and no decesion before this one citing the 14th ammendment as justification for gay marriage. That is why other groups can use it the exact same way.
    There was no necessity for that since at the beginning, marriage wasn't a government contract. It was left to the churches. And if it were still that way, I'd probably be agreeing with you.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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