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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I have answered the question. I also answered it earlier in this thread. I would guess that homosexuals practice anal sex more often than heterosexuals. Now, this does not draw the conclusion that you want it to.
    Finally. And of course it does since it is proven anal sex has a larger risk factor for HIV than any other. Thank you for finally answering it.

    So... answer it.
    And yes having anal sex regardless of who you are increases the risk. And if you use it more than any other group like gay men then the risk factor is higher.

    Perhaps I can break it down a little easier for you.

    If you have two groups of people who drive and one group drives 30 miles per hour say 65% of the time and the other 35% of the time they drive 90 and you compare it to another group that drives 90 miles per hour 95% or 100% of the time the second group is far more likely to be involved in a deadly accident than the first group.

    See how easy that is?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    You apparently missed the word "sometimes" in the section you highlighted.

    How embarrassing.
    You apparently didn't notice that there was nothing about a state of being in any of the definitions, nor did it offer anything other than behaviors. How embarrassing.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Nice try again CC. There is no cause anywhere in any definition you have in front of you. None.

    To pretend anal sex is not a measurable characteristic of gay men when it is their primary sexual position when having sex is really amusing if not so painfaully sad. Since on average gay men DO have sex and when they do it IS anal sex and they being the group that practices it the most it is a risk factor NOT a cause.

    Thats why risk factor doesn't have cause anywhere in its defintion. You've lost that argument pages ago yet you still hang onto it. Amazing.
    Poor tex. Failing again. Let's consider this. A behavior CAN be a risk factor. An orientation cannot. Being a homosexual is NOT a risk factor for HIV. Having anal sex is a risk factor for HIV. This is the crux of why Hicup was wrong, and when confronted, refused to acknowledge it. Now, I know that you do not understand the difference between behavior and orientation... you've proven this scores of times. But you cannot refute that anal sex is a risk factor, and therefore CAN cause HIV. Homosexuality in and of itself is NOT a risk factor and in and of itself CANNOT cause HIV.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Finally. And of course it does since it is proven anal sex has a larger risk factor for HIV than any other. Thank you for finally answering it.
    All it proves is that anal sex is a risk factor for causing HIV.



    And yes having anal sex regardless of who you are increases the risk.
    Thank you.

    And if you use it more than any other group like gay men then the risk factor is higher.
    No. If ANY individual uses anal sex more often, their risk factor is higher. Being homosexual does not mean you will engage in anal sex. Again, there is NO CAUSATION and no direct link. Homosexuality is NOT a behavior.

    Perhaps I can break it down a little easier for you.

    If you have two groups of people who drive and one group drives 30 miles per hour say 65% of the time and the other 35% of the time they drive 90 and you compare it to another group that drives 90 miles per hour 95% or 100% of the time the second group is far more likely to be involved in a deadly accident than the first group.
    Firstly, you are drawing an unproven conclusion. You did not state that those who drive faster get into more accidents, nor did you state that those accidents would be caused by those driving fast... or by driving fast at all.

    Let me break it down for YOU. I'll use a similar example.

    40-50 year olds drive 30 MPH 65% of the time, and 90 MPH 35% of the time. 20-30 year olds drive 90 MPH 90% of the time. Those who drive 90 MPH are 12x more likeky to get into an accident. Which group is more likely to get into an accident? The 20-30 year olds. What causes folks to get into accident? DRIVING 90 MPH. What is the risk factor for getting into an accident? DRIVING 90 MPH. Now, you are going to say that 20-30 year olds are a risk factor, but they are not. The information does not take into account the 20-30 year olds who do NOT drive. It also shows that 40-50 year olds who drive 90 MPH have the same risk factor of getting into an accident. The risk factor is 90 MPH, not age.

    I hope you now see where your logic is flawed and how it is behavior and NOT age OR orientation that is the risk factor.

    See how easy that is?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    Show facts opinions mean nothing
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Poor tex. Failing again. Let's consider this. A behavior CAN be a risk factor. An orientation cannot. Being a homosexual is NOT a risk factor for HIV. Having anal sex is a risk factor for HIV. This is the crux of why Hicup was wrong, and when confronted, refused to acknowledge it. Now, I know that you do not understand the difference between behavior and orientation... you've proven this scores of times. But you cannot refute that anal sex is a risk factor, and therefore CAN cause HIV. Homosexuality in and of itself is NOT a risk factor and in and of itself CANNOT cause HIV.
    Your response is a great example of use of mental gymanstics to avoid addressing an actual point. Congratulations for so artfully denying reality.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Your response is a great example of use of mental gymanstics to avoid addressing an actual point. Congratulations for so artfully denying reality.
    Or he is just pointing out the common sense fact that it is the risky behaviors of unprotected anal sex and promiscuity that lead to spread of HIV, not the practice of homosexuality since it is clear to anyone that two clean gay men who are monogamous with each other could never give each other HIV no matter how much gay sex they have.

    Now tex is doing a pretty good job of playing mental gymnastics given that he refuses to admit that homosexual behavior, in and of itself, does not magically create the disease out of thin air.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Or he is just pointing out the common sense fact that it is the risky behaviors of unprotected anal sex and promiscuity that lead to spread of HIV, not the practice of homosexuality since it is clear to anyone that two clean gay men who are monogamous with each other could never give each other HIV no matter how much gay sex they have.

    Now tex is doing a pretty good job of playing mental gymnastics given that he refuses to admit that homosexual behavior, in and of itself, does not magically create the disease out of thin air.
    You are just trying to stretch a point to the breaking point to avoid using the term homosexual and anal sex together. Massive straw man argument going on here. Anal sex and gay males is just part of reality. To keep denying that is a little insane. I don't see anything in what I've read so far to support your exaggeration than he thinks homosexual behavior itself created the disease. You took the big leap to that conclusion.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    "people say gay marriage would destroy the fabric of American society.
    Really? Would a gay ever do anything to harm fabric?"

    Saw that joke this morning, bitt a light hearted humor before reaching page 2000...

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    You are just trying to stretch a point to the breaking point to avoid using the term homosexual and anal sex together.
    Given that on average 40% of heterosexuals and only 65% of homosexual men (which comprise only 50% of all homosexuals) engage in anal sex, yeah... homosexual and anal sex are not synonymous.

    More heterosexuals engage in anal sex than homosexuals.

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