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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Those Fox internet polls get intentionally flooded by anti-Fox liberals all the time. One of them about the Tea Party showed the by far most popular result being the option for the Tea Party being racist bigots. No surprise, really; internet denizens tend to be extremely anti-Fox, and those who are tend to be extremely organized and militant about it.
    ... So if FOX has a lot of viewers, it's because they are the most fair and balanced. If their internet polls show something you disagree with, it's because most people on the internet are from the left. It's a conspiracy I tell yah! A conspiracy! All the anti-semitic libruls got together to vote on FOX - yeops.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Those Fox internet polls get intentionally flooded by anti-Fox liberals all the time. One of them about the Tea Party showed the by far most popular result being the option for the Tea Party being racist bigots. No surprise, really; internet denizens tend to be extremely anti-Fox, and those who are tend to be extremely organized and militant about it.
    So not only are you suggesting that there is 300,000+ people that sit around and wait for this stuff to come up (I had to dig around on the actual site before I found it, after reading the post on another site) but you also suggest that most conservatives don't understand the concept of a mouse?


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    They do? Wouldn't that kind of be a silly assumption? Since part of what constitutes a heterosexual is how they make love? LOL You can't be that serious? Were you joking with me?


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    According to a 2005 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, some studies put the incidence of anal sex in the heterosexual population as low as 24 percent and some as high as 56 percent. Averaging those numbers, let’s say 38.8 percent of heterosexuals engage in anal sex. Ninety-six percent of Americans are straight. There are 190,000,000 adults between the ages of 18 and 65 in the United States, so that means 70,771,200 adults are engaging in heterosexual anal sex. Four percent of the adult population is gay, or 7,600,000 people. Roughly half—3,800,000—are gay males. Polls indicate that between 55 and 80 percent of gay males participate in anal sex. Taking the average—67.5 percent—that means the number of gay men having anal sex comes to 2,565,000.

    70,771,200 is more—a whole lot more—than 2,565,000. Anal sex in America is primarily a heterosexual pursuit.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    CC - you appear to be utterly ignorant on what a "risk factor" is. A "risk factor" implies no causal relationship whatsoever. It refers simply to a variable that is related to increased risk. The relationship can be causal OR correlational.

    That you would accuse someone of "lying" for using a term YOU did not understand is quite simply outrageous.

    I'm sure he'd appreciate a public apology.
    So you would say, for example, that having a lot of fouls is a "risk factor" for scoring a lot of points in Basketball since there's a correlation between individuals who have given a lot of fouls and individuals who score double digit points?

    Naturally then by your peoples logic one can assure themselves a higher likelihood of scoring double digit points in the NBA by fouling people continually.


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    No internet poll should ever be trusted, on either side, including many of the ones on this site.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you would say, for example, that having a lot of fouls is a "risk factor" for scoring a lot of points in Basketball since there's a correlation between individuals who have given a lot of fouls and individuals who score double digit points?

    Naturally then by your peoples logic one can assure themselves a higher likelihood of scoring double digit points in the NBA by fouling people continually.

    You can't be serious. You are trying to equate conditions that produce results without interference with conditions where the results are intentionally driven? How did that possibly work out in your head?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Homosexuality, specifically male homosexuality, does not make one any more likely in and of itself to be able to contract HIV. If you expose a straight person and a homosexual person to HIV they have the exact same likelihood of gaining the disease. This obvious tells us its something else in the community that is causing disproportionately large numbers of homosexual men to have HIV rather than heterosexual men, and that said thing can not simply be their status as homosexuals because it can easily be proven that being homosexual in and of itself doesn't make you more or less prone to gaining the disease. Thus, there is likely an additional factor/factors that is more prevalent in the homosexual male community than in heterosexual male communities. Most evidence seems to point to a high proliferation of more casual sex mixed with the smaller community pool of potential partners to engage in said sexual style with, leading to the higher proliferation of this. Both factors can arguably be contributed to the fact that society and the rule of law denies them the traditional incentives for monogamous relationships while also ostracizing them from being "normal" thus increasing the seeming need to require them to go about things more "discreetly" and on the down low than possible rather than traditional relationships.

    Heterosexual people performing the same type of irresponsibility also are more likely to catch STD's than other heterosexuals. For example, individuals that are college aged are more likely to contract an STD than those that are in their 30's and 40's. Shall we suggest then that college causes STD's? Or is it perhaps that the atmosphere and sexual standards at most colleges are different than those that are older and it is that, not necessarily college itself nor the age of the people, that are responsible for the variations?

    Similarly with basketball, you'll see that those players who most routinely average double digit points are also the ones that tend to have given the most fouls in a season. One could incorrectly assume then that fouling people leads to scoring more points. OR, you could be more intelligent and look for a more direct relationship, namely that those who play more minutes are both more likely to score points and more likely to have more opportunities to get fouls and thus it is not the fouling but the time played (The behavior) that is the issue.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you would say, for example, that having a lot of fouls is a "risk factor" for scoring a lot of points in Basketball since there's a correlation between individuals who have given a lot of fouls and individuals who score double digit points?

    Naturally then by your peoples logic one can assure themselves a higher likelihood of scoring double digit points in the NBA by fouling people continually.

    Please address the real issue, which is CC accusing Hicup of "lying" about making a "causational relationship" in saying that homosexuality is a risk factor for contracting HIV.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Please address the real issue, which is CC accusing Hicup of "lying" about making a "causational relationship" in saying that homosexuality is a risk factor for contracting HIV.
    He did. And you're playing your usual word games. Homosexuality itself doesn't put you at a higher risk of contacting HIV. Unprotected sex does. So yes, Hiccup was lying or at the very least showing a serious case of ignorance. What other word games do you want to play today?
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He did. And you're playing your usual word games.
    No.. he posted an analogy illustrating problems with correlational data. It was not relevant to the issue I was raising with my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Homosexuality itself doesn't put you at a higher risk of contacting HIV. Unprotected sex does. So yes, Hiccup was lying or at the very least showing a serious case of ignorance.
    Show me where Hicup claimed that it wasn't unprotected sex that causes HIV, but "homosexuality itself."

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