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    So? So what? You think I didn't know this? How does it invalidate my claim?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    I don't know, and I suspect neither do you.

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    AIDS is just a consequence of HIV, after so many T cells have been compromised that your body can no longer create an adequate defense against the world of microbes. When you have late stage cancer, you can also have AIDS; same with leukemia. It just means a severe immune deficiency; though I admit, the term AIDS has become synonymous with the HIV virus.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    I don't know what causes HIV? Do you? However it is TRUE that homosexuals contract HIV more than any other group.


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    The leading cause of the transmission of HIV is anal sex, due to the ease by which tears and fissures occur in anal tissue. As such, men who have sex with men, represent the group with the highest risk of acquiring HIV, namely due to their likelihood in engaging in the behavior of anal sex. For the record, not all gay men engage in anal sex. Also, lesbians do not engage in anal sex and represent one of the lowest risk groups for HIV. The argument that "homosexuals" are at the greatest risk for HIV is thus ignorant, because anyone who engages in anal sex is at significant risk.

    Furthermore, the risk for transmission of HIV is significantly reduced if condoms are used, and it is therefore the behavior of unprotected anal sex that is most likely to spread HIV.

    Not that it matters to you, since you are trying to make a political argument rather than a scientific one, but one's sexual orientation has little to do with their likelihood of contracting HIV. It is the sexual behaviors that people choose to engage in that increases their likelihood of contracting the disease.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The leading cause of the transmission of HIV is anal sex, due to the ease by which tears and fissures occur in anal tissue. As such, men who have sex with men, represent the group with the highest risk of acquiring HIV, namely due to their likelihood in engaging in the behavior of anal sex. For the record, not all gay men engage in anal sex. Also, lesbians do not engage in anal sex and represent one of the lowest risk groups for HIV. The argument that "homosexuals" are at the greatest risk for HIV is thus ignorant, because anyone who engages in anal sex is at significant risk.

    Furthermore, the risk for transmission of HIV is significantly reduced if condoms are used, and it is therefore the behavior of unprotected anal sex that is most likely to spread HIV.

    Not that it matters to you, since you are trying to make a political argument rather than a scientific one, but one's sexual orientation has little to do with their likelihood of contracting HIV. It is the sexual behaviors that people choose to engage in that increases their likelihood of contracting the disease.
    I agree with most of this post, but one quick correction. I would disagree that lesbians do not engage in anal sex. They are the least likely too, but that doesn't mean that they don't, they certainly can, and do.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    I agree with most of this post, but one quick correction. I would disagree that lesbians do not engage in anal sex. They are the least likely too, but that doesn't mean that they don't, they certainly can, and do.
    I find it fascinating that as much as people(well, men) are fascinated by lesbians, they still have such ignorance about them.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    Yep. Another activist judge overthrowing the will of the people for a second time based on nothing but their own personal politics.

    Sad but predictable.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    I'm happy for the gays. They have every right to a be married as far as I'm concerned.

    I'd really like to see the government out of the "marriage" business all together. I'm for civil unions for all couples regardless of orientation.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    I'm happy for the gays. They have every right to a be married as far as I'm concerned.

    I'd really like to see the government out of the "marriage" business all together. I'm for civil unions for all couples regardless of orientation.
    I agree. "Protecting the sanctity of Marriage" seems to be the main object of concern for most of these people who are against Gay marriages or civil unions. A civil union should be the business of the state, whereas if someone wants to be "married" they should go to their church or what have you, and be married there. If a gay couple wanted to marry, they could go to a church that approves of performing gay marriages. I don't see the problem there.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The leading cause of the transmission of HIV is anal sex, due to the ease by which tears and fissures occur in anal tissue. As such, men who have sex with men, represent the group with the highest risk of acquiring HIV, namely due to their likelihood in engaging in the behavior of anal sex. For the record, not all gay men engage in anal sex. Also, lesbians do not engage in anal sex and represent one of the lowest risk groups for HIV. The argument that "homosexuals" are at the greatest risk for HIV is thus ignorant, because anyone who engages in anal sex is at significant risk.

    Furthermore, the risk for transmission of HIV is significantly reduced if condoms are used, and it is therefore the behavior of unprotected anal sex that is most likely to spread HIV.

    Not that it matters to you, since you are trying to make a political argument rather than a scientific one, but one's sexual orientation has little to do with their likelihood of contracting HIV. It is the sexual behaviors that people choose to engage in that increases their likelihood of contracting the disease.
    Since you missed when this was brought up will you at least admit that homosexual sex has a far greater chance of contracting HIV than other groups?

    See what you are missing is why this was brought up. CC had the audacious and obsolete argument that a group of people can be denied marriage based on positive or negative contributions to society which was his excuse on how pologamay or other sexual orientations could continue to be banned. That is the reason it was brought up to expose that fallacy.
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