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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    Ok, Redress... Start a thread on it, but not here in this one. I'll show you why you're wrong on all counts, except the gay female issue. Even if you include gay woman, I'm still 100% accurate with my analysis. I excluded them because their instance of contracting HIV is even less statistically significant than straight woman. In other words, they didn't matter to the analysis, nor the claim. Now, please, bring it up in another thread.


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Ok, so now can we move on? Thanks for the courtesy, Captain. Give me a bit, I generally like to go back a few pages from where I left off just so I can ease my way back into it.

    Shouldn't take more than about 20 min or so..


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    So I know that I'm just jumping in the middle of this and there is much I didnt read (with 144 pages, how could I?), but I firmly believe that the constitution is ALWAYS meant to protect and give rights and never limit. When CA put a constitution BAN on the civil union (as marriage is a religious thing and the government has no place in that and it no place in the government) between two people of the same gender, they spat in the face of liberty.

    And why is HIV even brought up? How does HIV affect your civil rights? My southern baptist preacher has HIV. Do you know how he got it? Blood transfusion...

    My grandmother always has very wise things to say in her very, very thick Russian accent. I think we could all learn from something she told me very recently: "Austin... Come here. Why the fu*k do you care? Does it really matter? Will this affect your life in any way?"

    Does it really? No.

    But hey----At least with gay couples, there is no fear about unwanted pregnancies draining the social security tit.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. This doesn't just get to stand as is. All you are doing is manipulating statistics. You don't get to exclude a group because it counters your position.
    You noticed that too, huh?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    And why is HIV even brought up? How does HIV affect your civil rights?

    I was wondering that too; haven't bothered to read the whole thread.
    You'd think if these guys believe HIV is a strictly "gay" disease, they'd want gays to get married.
    At least then they'd be more likely to be monogamous, thus less spread of HIV.


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    they'd want gays to get married.
    No, no. Marriage is only a punishment fit for straight people. It's why the homosexual population hasnt fought hard for it yet... Now they are just greedy, right? hahaha.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by dimitri View Post
    No, no. Marriage is only a punishment fit for straight people. It's why the homosexual population hasnt fought hard for it yet... Now they are just greedy, right? hahaha.

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    Agreed, but I think marriage is a civil right.
    Being together with the partner of one's choice- regardless of their race, religion, or gender- might be a human right.
    But getting a marriage license from the government, and all the government-bestowed rights, benefits, and protections that come with it, is definitely a civil right, in my mind.

    Not that gays don't deserve equal civil rights; they do, of course.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I was wondering that too; haven't bothered to read the whole thread.
    You'd think if these guys believe HIV is a strictly "gay" disease, they'd want gays to get married.
    At least then they'd be more likely to be monogamous, thus less spread of HIV.

    Agree but those straight folks that think of AIDS as a "gay" disease are usually not even monogamous themselves. Just a bunch of haters who hate the gays
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by dimitri View Post
    So I know that I'm just jumping in the middle of this and there is much I didnt read (with 144 pages, how could I?), but I firmly believe that the constitution is ALWAYS meant to protect and give rights and never limit. When CA put a constitution BAN on the civil union (as marriage is a religious thing and the government has no place in that and it no place in the government) between two people of the same gender, they spat in the face of liberty.

    And why is HIV even brought up? How does HIV affect your civil rights? My southern baptist preacher has HIV. Do you know how he got it? Blood transfusion...

    My grandmother always has very wise things to say in her very, very thick Russian accent. I think we could all learn from something she told me very recently: "Austin... Come here. Why the fu*k do you care? Does it really matter? Will this affect your life in any way?"

    Does it really? No.

    But hey----At least with gay couples, there is no fear about unwanted pregnancies draining the social security tit.
    HIV is brought up in ever thread involving gays for the same reason that Incest, bestiality, polygamy and pedophilia is brought up. It's an attempt to tie gay people with unpopular things.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Right... My last post was in humour, of course... And in the end, semantics are the downfall of the human race I'm sure...

    I think the US gov't has the responibility to the people to protect their rights of any kind. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, right? If you've played the game of LIFE, you know that getting married is typically a part of it.

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