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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

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    Please, I'm asking a question, what's your answer?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    May I suggest you start with page 1? You present nothing but cliched rhetoric that is already well worn, and it honestly comes across as merely parroting the same old talking points
    I work for a living, unlike you apparently, and do not have the time nor the inclination to read 120 pages of posts.
    I gave my opinion, and I was addressing Your Star who replied to my opinion, not you.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I wish you would stop saying that because you know it isn't true and it is intellectually dishonest and simply ignorant to keep repeating it. The president is obligated by his office to defend federal law, which means the Department of Justice must make a case to defend DOMA even though Obama has openly argued for its repeal. The fact that the DOJ brought up a case of a 16 year old neice has nothing to do with pedophilia. 16 year olds can marry in many states with their parent's consent. And even if there was sex involved, it has nothing to do with pedophilia, which has to do with prepubescent children, not those in their late teenage years.

    All you are trying to do at this point is bait and incite people, and it is trollish behavior.
    boy, everything they don't like is trollish

    if you don't think having relations with a 16 year old is pedophilia, it just says stuff about you

    either way, i wouldn't say it to her dad

    Now the Administration says it opposes DOMA and wants it overturned — but that tradition dictates that it defend the law. And that is why, the White House said in a statement, "the Department of Justice has filed a response to a legal challenge to [DOMA], as it traditionally does when acts of Congress are challenged."

    Legalistically speaking, the tradition argument is true, but it's yet another Obama dodge. The Administration could easily decline to defend the anti-gay law on discrimination grounds, just as the Administration of George H.W. Bush declined to defend federal laws setting a preference for awarding broadcast licenses to minority-owned businesses in 1990. The radical firebrand at the Department of Justice who successfully argued against defending those laws? A young DOJ attorney named John Roberts, who is now the Chief Justice of the United States. Clearly, Obama could have refused to defend DOMA if he had really wanted to. Georgetown's Hunter cites other cases in which the Justice Department has declined to defend laws, including one involving a minor cable-TV dispute. As Eugene Volokh of UCLA told me Aug. 18, there is nothing in the constitution or the law that would have prevented the Department of Justice from sitting on the sidelines in the DOMA case.

    Nothing except politics. Obama's triangulation between left and right has become excruciatingly obvious on this issue, and he's not quite as deft a politician as Bill Clinton at keeping his left flank at bay. I wouldn't be surprised if, next summer at the 32nd Fire Island Pines fundraiser for Lambda, I hear booing when the President's name is mentioned.
    Why Does Obama Keep Flip-Flopping on Gay Marriage? - TIME
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Go to your control panel and set to 40 posts per page. That way there will only be 30 pages - and many of them are repetitive rubbish.

    Quote Originally Posted by C-21 Cowboy View Post
    I work for a living, unlike you apparently, and do not have the time nor the inclination to read 120 pages of posts.
    I gave my opinion, and I was addressing Your Star who replied to my opinion, not you.

    Good evening

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by C-21 Cowboy View Post
    This is a travesty of epic proportions.
    The votes of 7,100,000 Californians have been discounted, because of one activist Judge, an admitted homosexual no less.

    I don't know why the pro-gay agenda people are celebrating, gays still can't legally marry in the State of California.
    It will be years before this is heard before the Supreme Court.
    In the meantime California still does not recognize same sex marriage as legally binding.
    Oh, what a tragic day for people who love to restrict the civil rights of their fellow tax-paying, law-abiding citizens.

    They might actually learn that their mob mentality is against the Constitution and that the right to vote doesn't mean the right to take legal benefits away from people for no other reason than you find them a little icky.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Here is just one good reason not to let gays marry--it would be ****ting on the man in the relationship:
    Tips for Gay Men on How to Avoid Gay Marriage
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by C-21 Cowboy View Post
    I work for a living, unlike you apparently, and do not have the time nor the inclination to read 120 pages of posts.
    I gave my opinion, and I was addressing Your Star who replied to my opinion, not you.

    Good evening
    nah, I am just able to earn a living and still have the latitude to also be involved in other endeavors at the same time, but I do appreciate the baseless accusation. It is 9 in the evening however, I would think that an hour or so after dinner would get me caught up with the thread.. at least even if i did not read the whole thread I would probably be acutely aware that the talking points that were spoon fed to me to regurgitate were probably also spoon fed to others and have already been regurgitated ad nauseum.

    Anyhow, you posted to a public message board, and I publicly responded with my opinion to your post, independent of who you were replying to.

    It is a good evening
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Here is just one good reason not to let gays marry--it would be ****ting on the man in the relationship:
    Tips for Gay Men on How to Avoid Gay Marriage
    Thank you for this, I think that it puts it all into perpective.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    boy, everything they don't like is trollish

    if you don't think having relations with a 16 year old is pedophilia, it just says stuff about you
    Yeah, it means I actually know the definition of pedophilia and you don't. And because I actually use the correct definition of pedophilia, you feel entitled to insinuate that there is something wrong with me. It demonstrates how low you are willing to go because you don't have a valid argument on the actual issue of discussion in this thread.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    there is nothing wrong with you, so far as i know

    none of my business, either way

    way too personal

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