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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    bi bobby enjoys the exact same constitutional protections covering gay gary

    who are you to deny him his private, consensual relations?
    No ones denying him private consensual relations.

    They're denying him the ability to have more than one spouse.

    They can do this because "number of people" is not a protected grouping under the Equal Protection Clause. They can also do this because there is a far stronger case for government interest with regards to polygamy than with same sex marriage.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    bobby is not a number of people

    he's bobby
    Indeed.

    But saying its discrimination for him not to be able to have 2 spouses instead of 1 IS number of people.

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    No, they really haven't.

    They were either curious, or they denied themselves - but gays are gays are gays are gays.
    There are many documented cases..........just google on it and you might learn something.......
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Is there anyway you can stop changing the subject to prove a nonprovable point? I'm literally getting dizzy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    But the question of fundamental right is the point of this debate, isn't it? Without a fundamental right, the 14th is rendered moot. If I were arguing against gay marriage, I would argue that marriage if fundamental at all is held precisely for one man, and one woman. Please take the opposing view councilor..

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And your failing to twist the topic of the thread continuing to fail is still hilarious.
    barack hussein obama's dept of justice equated gay marriage to pedophilia

    ug-ly

    what's going on with dadt?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The liberals here seem to shy away form the polygamy argument, as it tends to nullify the "fundamental" meaning of marriage. This is precisely my point. If marriage is so fundamental, then by what measure is it so? What is it about marriage that makes it fundamental, or inalieanable?

    Liberals care to weigh in?


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    Maybe because the thread is not about polygamy?

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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The liberals here seem to shy away form the polygamy argument, as it tends to nullify the "fundamental" meaning of marriage. This is precisely my point. If marriage is so fundamental, then by what measure is it so? What is it about marriage that makes it fundamental, or inalieanable?

    Liberals care to weigh in?


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    Again, and has been explained repeatedly, wanting gay marriage is not the same thing as wanting marriage in any and every case with no limits. Zyphlin has pointed out the legal differences between gays, men and women, and polygamists.
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That's funny, cause I see a bunch of "conservatives" shying away from this particular conservative whose also rejecting the polygamist arguments and has given specific reasons for it while not a single, solitary conservative has shown how any of my arguments for same sex marriage can be equally applied to polygamy.

    How about instead of calling people out, you step up.
    Step up? I've been stepping up since I entered the thread.. LOL

    In order to find the truth behind a particular opinion, and whether it has validity, we must take specific, and crucial steps. I'm not sure I received your challnge on polygamy, but if it was directed at me and I missed it, please re-issue it. I don't shy away from direct questions, ever.

    I want to know what people here think makes something a fundamental right, and whether they agree that the definition I provided, which closely matches the legal test, is a valid starting point? The reason this question is important is because if marriage isn't fundamental to all humans, then which humans is it fundamental too, if at all?


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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Nice try but show me marriage in the constitution.


    Just like Liberals do on the first amendment they try and stretch the 14th.....won't work though......
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    Re: California gay marriage ban overturned: report

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Is there anyway you can stop changing the subject to prove a nonprovable point? I'm literally getting dizzy.
    That happens to liberals a lot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Maybe because the thread is not about polygamy?
    Neither was my question.

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