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    Iran: War Option on the Table

    NBC-TV's "Meet the Press" this past Sunday began the war talk of August. It's not quite the guns of August, 1914, but it ain't beanbag, either.

    When "Meet the Press" asked Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen if the Pentagon had a plan for attacking Iran, Mullen replied, "We do." He added, "Military actions have been on the table and remain on the table."

    Mullen tempered his response by emphasizing an attack is always an "option." Mullen kept his hypothetical saber stroke in a diplomatic sheath by emphasizing the U.S. regards military action to destroy Iranian nuclear capabilities as an "option."

    Mentioning the overt war option lit a Beltway firestorm, but his tough statement is one of many made by Obama administration officials since January of this year. Rumors of covert options designed to damage the Iranian nuclear program have made the rounds for several years. CIA Director Leon Panetta, in late June, appeared on ABC's "This Week" and carefully hinted at covert war options.

    Panetta was asked about Obama administration intimations that Iran had encountered "technical troubles" in its nuclear program. Were Iranians lousy bomb-builders, or was sabotage involved?

    Panetta replied: "... I can't speak to obviously intelligence operations, and I won't. It's enough to say that, clearly, they have had problems. There are problems with regards to their ability to develop enrichment ... ."
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    now, is this really being considered? I was searching in the news today, and although not many of western media took this really seriously, it seems that vast majority of state-sponsored Iranian media is taking it seriously, and have already warned of the consequences. this is rather interesting, since it was always the other way around.

    this, for example, is a response article from presstv, Iranian official english media:



    Amid reports of a planned US strike on Tehran, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki has warned against the "miserable" consequences of the move.

    On Sunday, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen said the US military is prepared to risk a potentially devastating war in order to stop Iran from building nuclear "weapons."

    However, Mullen, US highest-ranking military officer, expressed his extreme concern about the possible repercussions of such a strike.

    In an interview with Iran's Arabic-language Al-Alam television network on Tuesday, Mottaki said the US will face fate more miserable than its destiny in Iraq and Afghanistan should it adopt any move against Iran.

    "It is a long time the US [officials] make such remarks…We can currently see their fate," the Iranian minister added.
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020101

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    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LH05Ak02.html
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nd-iran-nukes/
    http://rt.com/Politics/2010-08-04/ir...-missiles.html
    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8905121529
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    Re: Iran: War Option on the Table

    I sure hope we "have a plan" for action against Iran. We probably have several. I'm sure we also "have plans" for actions against Russia, China, Korea, Venezuela, Cuba and many other nations. It's just part of military preparedness.

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    It is standard operating procedures to have war plans in place for pretty much any country. Rumsfeld updated many of the war plans. We probably have war plans for Canada, Britain, Iceland and others. Having a plan in place is meaningless.

    Military action is always an option in any diplomacy. That does not make it likely. We would be foolish to reject any option in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is standard operating procedures to have war plans in place for pretty much any country. Rumsfeld updated many of the war plans. We probably have war plans for Canada, Britain, Iceland and others. Having a plan in place is meaningless.

    Military action is always an option in any diplomacy. That does not make it likely. We would be foolish to reject any option in advance.
    considering the cold atmosphere surrounding middle east, 4th round of international sanctions, Obama's plans to end war in Iraq, and constant threats by Israel, this is all looking so much like a planned situation. I mean, I know everybody has plans for wars. the important thing is, in this situation, anyone can consider this an obvious threat. at least, Iranian government considered it a threat, and this fact is reflected in their media.

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    I'm sure that even if we struck at Iran's nuclear capabilities, it would be limited to surgical missile strikes and zero boots on the ground. That's the only option I can even see them remotely considering.

    This is merely carrot and stick diplomacy. First, you show the jackass the stick so he knows you mean business. Then, you offer him the carrot, as an incentive to do the right thing.

    Our military is already stretched way too thin as it is. There is no way we can sustain another war. We don't have the money, troops, or political support for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm sure that even if we struck at Iran's nuclear capabilities, it would be limited to surgical missile strikes and zero boots on the ground. That's the only option I can even see them remotely considering.
    in case of an attack, I'm afraid Iran will make it a full scale war.

    This is merely carrot and stick diplomacy. First, you show the jackass the stick so he knows you mean business. Then, you offer him the carrot, as an incentive to do the right thing.
    it was carrot and stick for a long time. after not getting any response from Iranian government, would obama consider actually attacking Iran?

    Our military is already stretched way too thin as it is. There is no way we can sustain another war. We don't have the money, troops, or political support for that.
    after ending the war in Iraq, there's 50000 troops ready for deployment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youknowwho View Post
    in case of an attack, I'm afraid Iran will make it a full scale war.
    That's possible, but I consider it unlikely. It's more likely that Iran would attack Israel, and vice versa. And, I believe that we have little or no control over Israel these days. The military option is ALWAYS on the table, but it is actually rarely utilized by the U.S., in actuality.

    it was carrot and stick for a long time. after not getting any response from Iranian government, would obama consider actually attacking Iran?
    I'd say the chances are less than 10% unless Ahmadinejad provoked it by doing something ridiculous. And, the only reason I can think of for him to do that would be to distract the people of Iran and create a new enemy for them, so as to shift the focus off of his failings. However, I consider that likelihood scary but again, unlikely.

    I mean, North Korea has been threatening the same damn thing, and probably has nuclear weapons, and we haven't bombed them yet.

    after ending the war in Iraq, there's 50000 troops ready for deployment.
    Not really, no. The troops have been deployed for almost a decade, and we can't really maintain that.

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    Re: Iran: War Option on the Table

    Quote Originally Posted by youknowwho View Post
    in case of an attack, I'm afraid Iran will make it a full scale war.
    The day iran began de-stablizing iraq through training, funding, arming, and ordering attacks on US troops by its usual terrorist proxies there it became a full-scale war. Just as it does not get a pass for hamas, hezbollah, islamic jihad, its attacks on the kurds, and so many other groups inside iran that the human rights groups never seem to want to highlight much.

    it was carrot and stick for a long time. after not getting any response from Iranian government, would obama consider actually attacking Iran?
    A half-rational president would and should have attacked iran almost 7 years ago...

    after ending the war in Iraq, there's 50000 troops ready for deployment.
    Actually, there's far more: 60,000 in Germany, 60,000 in Japan, 58,000 in South Korea, the entire Navy and Air Force, neither of whom are expending much men or material towards either iraq or afghanistan, PLUS the 85,000 troops about to leave iraq PLUS the coming drawdowns in Afghan.

    Then there are the recent veterans like myself who would re-enlist and serve in an attack on iran to conduct regime change there, and bring those animals to the Hague to be hanged for War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. Trust me, I've spoken to alot of my former battalion members and alot of us would go there for an E-1 salary to get the job done...
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    Re: Iran: War Option on the Table

    The US has no aces to play with Iran. Sanctions aren't working, and Obama doesn't want to be the President that allowed an enemy to gain nuclear weapons on his watch.

    What ya gunno do school boy?

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    Re: Iran: War Option on the Table

    Quote Originally Posted by youknowwho View Post
    in case of an attack, I'm afraid Iran will make it a full scale war.
    While this is possible, it would require a whole lot of stupidity from your government. They cannot win such a war. Israel alone could probably defeat the Iranian army, and Israel would not be alone. There is simply no upside for your government to escalate.

    it was carrot and stick for a long time. after not getting any response from Iranian government, would obama consider actually attacking Iran?
    Probably not without things getting much worse, and then probably only with airstrikes.

    after ending the war in Iraq, there's 50000 troops ready for deployment.
    The Coalition used 300k troops for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. It would take more for Iran. 50k is not enough, especially when the US military is over-deployed. US soldiers have spent too much time deployed the last 8 years or so, and need to start getting more downtime. Just having the troops available does not make invasion likely.
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