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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    A lot of pundits have said that Missouri often carries the presidency. Some statistic linked Missouri as the state that, whoever it votes for, gets elected. Interesting slice of trivia.

    Besides, it's not like Missouri only has a couple electoral votes. Now if we were talking North Dakota, sure.

    Anyway, it's not just Missouri. Other states will be questioning its validity at the state level, and good on them.
    Missouri, historically, has been a pretty conservative place, dating to the civil war. The only two liberal places are sections of St. Louis and Kansas City. I'm not really surprised by this.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    That's just typical though. The larger the city, the more liberal it is (and votes).

    Even in a state like Alabama, Birmingham notoriously votes Democrat in its district. Illinois would probably vote Republican every single time if you cut out Chicago.

    It really speaks volumes when the hometown people can make their unified voices louder than the major cities.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    This bodes well for November.
    I hope the administration goes against the will of the people on this too.

    The Pete Stark Omnipotent Federal Government just might be seeing the first wave of a second American revolution.

    Thanks Obi. We couldn't have done it without you.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    That's just typical though. The larger the city, the more liberal it is (and votes).

    Even in a state like Alabama, Birmingham notoriously votes Democrat in its district. Illinois would probably vote Republican every single time if you cut out Chicago.

    It really speaks volumes when the hometown people can make their unified voices louder than the major cities.
    I think that St. Louis and Kansas City proper are pretty small in comparison to the populations of the suburbs and the rest of the state. Both cities have dealt with major population exoduses to the burbs. That's why I'm not that impressed by this as a predictor of major elections in the future.

    I should note that I grew up outside of Kansas City and went to college there.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The real story here, is that Republican turnout topped the Democrats by a 2 to 1 margin. This spells "political tsunami" if this trend reflects voter enthusiasm nationally come November.
    It doesn't spell "political tsunami", it's just the teeter totter. Obama is unpopular, we'll probably swing towards more Republicans. The Republicans will become unpopular, and then we'll swing back to the democrats. Meanwhile, both parties are doing essentially the same thing. It's a puppet show, nothing more. Look at them sing and dance, but nothing really changes.
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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that St. Louis and Kansas City proper are pretty small in comparison to the populations of the suburbs and the rest of the state. Both cities have dealt with major population exoduses to the burbs. That's why I'm not that impressed by this as a predictor of major elections in the future.

    I should note that I grew up outside of Kansas City and went to college there.
    The city of St. Louis is small physically and has a relatively small population, yet the metropolitan area has a very large population. Not being a resident of St. Louis proper does not mean people in the area are not liberal. In order to get to true surburbs in the St. Louis area, you have to get pretty far away from downtown St. Louis and that would include dozens of small cities surrounding St. Louis.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    I've never lived in Missouri. I've been there. My aunt lives in Arkansas so I went through that 6 miles stretch at the southeast where it looks like a little hook. That counts, I guess.

    I figured KC to be incredibly Democrat, just judging from the fact that it's a mainstay of Jazz, which is listened to mostly by blacks, which mostly vote Democrat. I mean, I love Jazz, but I know I'm in the vast minority in my race.

    Also, St. Louis is supposed to be one of the worst cities in America insofar as crime, per-capita. I won't make the "degrees of separation" there, but I think you know where I'm going with it.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    The missed point here is, that this will encourage OTHER states to follow suit. What's O gonna do? Sue them all? This should scare the beejezus out those dems in Miss. that supported the Obamination that is Obamacare, and will scare the Dem's in southernstates even more.
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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    SEVENTY TWO PERCENT!

    wow!

    you can't get 72% of americans to agree on the weather

    the show me state is never wrong, no commonwealth is more bellwether, no state outside florida, virginia and our friends in the rust belt is more battleground

    we all know the dummy in the white house, despite the largeness of those lobes, is too deaf to hear

    but dpforums members?

    i'm so surprised

    turnout is all, enthusiasm is how you win elections in america

    gallup yesterday, which had obama at a new all time low of 41% approval, surveyed two to one the enthusiasm gap

    44% of republicans are eager, only 22% of party pelosi, proclaims the pollster of highest repute

    315,000 dems voted in missouri yesterday, 580,000 republicans

    in MICHIGAN, 525,000 blues turned out, 1.05 million reds

    in little old kansas, more than 4 to 1: 80,000 enlightened vs 335,000 knuckle draggers

    worry

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    A lot of pundits have said that Missouri often carries the presidency. Some statistic linked Missouri as the state that, whoever it votes for, gets elected. Interesting slice of trivia.

    Besides, it's not like Missouri only has a couple electoral votes. Now if we were talking North Dakota, sure.

    Anyway, it's not just Missouri. Other states will be questioning its validity at the state level, and good on them.
    Exactly. Missouri has long been recognized as a belweather state.

    In regard to prop C, it probably won't hold up in court, but it doesn't matter. This will provide a lot of momentum to removing the mandatory coverage requirement from Federal law, which is why passage was so important. I don't expect Republicans to take back either house this year, but in 2012, more Democratic seats than Republican ones will be up for grabs, and I expect the takeover of both houses to occur at that time. When it does, Republians are sure to repeal the portion of the health insurance bill that requires coverage, and it will have been non-binding elections like this one in Missouri that provided the mandate for the GOP to do it.
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