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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly


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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I saw it on fox last night. It was Eddie Cantor of Virginia. Also Newt Gingrich. The oinly way to stop Obama when they take the house is by cutting funding and stopping the government. It's been tried before by them but they backed down under clinton.

    History always repeats its self. The republicans have offered no solutions except cut spending and taxes which got us into this ****ing mess in the first place. Its kind of like the old myth about "starving a cold".

    Remember, you heard it here first by Liberal Avenger, ace political reporter.

    Stay tuned for the latest updates on this breaking story.

    Except Ace, you in your haste to throw out another talking point you got it wrong. The Repubs have indeed offered many things in a great many bills, only to be either shut out of the process, or their ideas ignored, then treated like they were never offered in the first place.

    We see that.


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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post

    give me a "P"! - give me an "A"! give me an "N"! give me an "I"! give me a "C"!

    What's it spell?
    PANIC!

    What?

    PANIC!






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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Except Ace, you in your haste to throw out another talking point you got it wrong. The Repubs have indeed offered many things in a great many bills, only to be either shut out of the process, or their ideas ignored, then treated like they were never offered in the first place.

    We see that.


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    Examples or links please.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    give me a "P"! - give me an "A"! give me an "N"! give me an "I"! give me a "C"!

    What's it spell?
    PANIC!

    What?

    PANIC!






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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Except Ace, you in your haste to throw out another talking point you got it wrong. The Repubs have indeed offered many things in a great many bills, only to be either shut out of the process, or their ideas ignored, then treated like they were never offered in the first place.

    We see that.



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    I'm sorry J-Mac that is a bald faced lie and it's amazing you are accusing someone else of using a 'talking point." There were numerous republican ideas including hundreds of amendments adopted during the committee process. Just some of the ideas adopted were:


    Personal responsibility incentives: Allows health insurance premium to vary based on participation in proven employer wellness programs
    o (Sources: H.R. 3468, “Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act” (Castle bill); H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill), "Coverage, Prevention and Reform Act")
    * Advances medical liability reform through grants to States: Provides grants to States to jump-start and evaluate promising medical liability reform ideas to put patient safety first, prevent medical errors, and reduce liability premiums.
    o (Sources: S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act” (Ryan bill); S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act” (Burr-Coburn, Ryan-Nunes bill))
    * Extends dependent coverage to age 26: Gives young adults new options.
    o (Sources: H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill))
    * Allows automatic enrollment by employers in health insurance: Allows employee to opt-out.
    o (Sources: House Republican Substitute; H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); “Coverage, Prevention, and Reform Act” )
    * Mechanisms to improve quality.
    o (Sources: H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act;” S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act;” H.R. 3400, Republican Study Group bill; S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill))

    * Community Mental Health Centers. The President’s Proposal ensures that individuals have access to comprehensive mental health services in the community setting, but strengthens standards for facilities that seek reimbursement as community mental health centers by ensuring these facilities are providing appropriate care and not taking advantage of Medicare patients or the taxpayers.
    o (Source: H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act”)


    http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-car...publican-ideas
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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Examples or links please.
    J-Mac doesn't believe in any examples or verification. If it feels good he says it.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    thanks for the link, it's refreshing

    i don't think mr's erickson and morris speak for rep's cantor, ryan and pence, for senators kyl and coburn and cornyn

    eric cantor vowed to "defund every bit of the regulatory process"

    that's not shut down, that's govt in action

    if president pie-in-the-face vetoes appropriations, who's playing roadblock?

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    You know Prof I could remove you from my ignore list to see what you said, but it would be waste of time, and I'm sure it's along the same lines as the nonsense J-Mac posts. I think I'll just keep you on the ignore mode.

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    Re: Prop C passes overwhelmingly

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    The republicans have offered no solutions except cut spending and taxes which got us into this ****ing mess in the first place.
    current leadership has offered nothing but the rotten recipe of print, borrow, tax and spend

    it's not working

    watch your language, please
    Last edited by The Prof; 09-04-10 at 09:55 AM.

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