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I doubt any of the victims were armed
Why would they be?
Now reports are that he was being harrassed because he was black...being sent taunting text messages and pictures. What a shame. Although he'd never complained to anyone about it, his family knew. He apparently was caught on video tape stealing beer off his truck. He was a Teamster, so he was losing a great job. All for a few cases of beer?? What a fool. And THEN to kill nine people and himself....what a tragedy.
Hartford Distributors Shooting: Shooter at Connecticut Beer Distributorship Opened Fire at Disciplinary Hearing - ABC News
apparently with a 223 rifle which the press erroneously called an "assault rifle". CT btw bans such weapons even though a major maker of such rifles is Colt in Hartford CT. I doubt any of the victims were armed
I doubt any of the victims were armed
I think it would be really appalling and disgusting for any of us to attempt to use this tragedy to make political hay on a gun agenda, whether that agenda is pro or anti-gun.
I think it would be really appalling and disgusting for any of us to attempt to use this tragedy to make political hay on a gun agenda, whether that agenda is pro or anti-gun.
Ah, those gun-free zones once again working perfectly. :roll:
Now reports are that he was being harrassed because he was black...being sent taunting text messages and pictures. What a shame. Although he'd never complained to anyone about it, his family knew. He apparently was caught on video tape stealing beer off his truck. He was a Teamster, so he was losing a great job. All for a few cases of beer?? What a fool. And THEN to kill nine people and himself....what a tragedy.
Hartford Distributors Shooting: Shooter at Connecticut Beer Distributorship Opened Fire at Disciplinary Hearing - ABC News
I agree that in hostage or very violent situations where a gunman assures impending harm, the best method is to simply kill him. It's not like his guilt is in question.
I do find it distasteful though that this incident is being used as part of the pro-gun agenda. Just because people can carry concealed in some areas does not mean that all factors would line up in their favor in a situation like this. Someone could pull a gun on him and easily get shot dead if he reacts fast enough. I mean, who knows how it could really go down in a situation that is so volatile and unpredictable. Adding more guns does not guarantee a positive outcome per se.
I find it just as repulsive when 'news' programs immeidately jump to the "assault rifle" connection and use it as a means of promoting gun control...
Well played sir!That son-of-a-bitch is in trouble now! Using an illegal weapon to commit a murder!
Hence my comments above. Gun proponents, most of you aren't going to be carrying a weapon on your person or in your desk at work, thus it wouldn't be accessible when you needed it in a scenario like this. Gun opponents, you can't outlaw crazy. Banning guns just leads to criminals being the only ones with guns.
Mass killings are tragedies, but they are tragedies that are very difficult to prevent through gun possession/banning. That's the logical facts.
I disagree with that Catz. Many people hold defensive arms as close to themselves as possible. I can't bring them into certain establishments and that is fine, but my firearm is normally within a reasonable distance to me in proximity. I'm not a rare case in the south.Hence my comments above. Gun proponents, most people aren't going to be carrying a weapon on their person or in their desk at work in corporate America, thus it wouldn't be accessible when needed it in a scenario like this. Gun opponents, you can't outlaw crazy. Banning guns just leads to criminals being the only ones with guns.
Mass killings are tragedies, but they are tragedies that are very difficult to prevent through gun possession/banning. That's the logical facts.
Situational awareness. I cannot stress to people enough how important it is to know your surroundings, how to read people, and keep a level head in case a crisis should happen to occur. In this situation a combination of a mentally unstable person and panic resulted in multiple needless deaths.Truth be told, after the loss of life (which trumps all and probably should have its own and separate thread) perhaps the GREATEST tragedy isnt that individuals werent allowed to be packin heat...its that we have been pussified to believe that when someone starts firing our best recourse is to hide and look for a safe place to die when the asshole shoots us or runs out of bullets. Unless we are talking a fully automatic weapon there are probably 101 different weapons within arms reach that any one or two people could employ that would either stop an individual or screw up their aim long enough to attack and disable them. And no...Im not talking about guerrila forces or special ops training. A set of keys, followed by a wallet, a pocket knife, a book, an iPod, a clipboard, or even a pen, then a cell phone in a barrage would make damn near anyone flinch even when holding a weapon. its unexpected and abnormal to stand unflinching while an object is flying at your eyes. We need to teach people to stop with the victim mentality. Lay down and die...dont worry, the cops will protect you.
I think it would be really appalling and disgusting for any of us to attempt to use this tragedy to make political hay on a gun agenda, whether that agenda is pro or anti-gun.