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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think it would be really appalling and disgusting for any of us to attempt to use this tragedy to make political hay on a gun agenda, whether that agenda is pro or anti-gun.
    I will keep that in mind when the brady's and the other scum in the gun ban movement start whining about it. But let's look at this honestly--the rifle he used is banned in Connecticut. That law didn't stop the crime. However, it is a rather strong possibility if the victims had been armed, less would have died.



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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    Ah, those gun-free zones once again working perfectly.
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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Ah, those gun-free zones once again working perfectly.
    they worked exactly as intended

    honest people got killed and gun banners have some more blood to splash around.

    what sort of mileage would Diane Feinswine or Sarah Brady get if the mope had been capped by some factory worker before he killed a bunch of people?

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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    I note Nightline is trying to make this tragedy into a gun control debate

    I note they were rather quiet after the McDonald decision



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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    It seems as if the disinfranchised/insane/depressed or whatever you care to label them aren't satisfied with ending themselves but feel a need to take out as many others as they can. Totally unpredictable, can happen anywhere, which makes it all the more frightening.

    I always have my gun and I 'm always aware of my surroundings. With my job, I'm always on the lookout for someone. I don't trust anyone to begin with....checking out the crowd with my head swiveling like a gyroscope

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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now reports are that he was being harrassed because he was black...being sent taunting text messages and pictures. What a shame. Although he'd never complained to anyone about it, his family knew. He apparently was caught on video tape stealing beer off his truck. He was a Teamster, so he was losing a great job. All for a few cases of beer?? What a fool. And THEN to kill nine people and himself....what a tragedy.

    Hartford Distributors Shooting: Shooter at Connecticut Beer Distributorship Opened Fire at Disciplinary Hearing - ABC News
    1) If the perp hadn't been complaining about this alleged harassment, his family wouldn't know about it.

    2) He didn't lose the job, he was caught stealing. Ergo, he threw the job away, and he was always going to know exactly where it was. In someone else's paycheck.

    3) We have to train people that the correct way to conduct a murder suicide is to start with the suicide.

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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    Its probably way to early to pronounce any judgments on this case. A lot of stuff just doesnt add up. Reports were that he used a .223 rifle? And that he was in a meeting about pending disciplined...came out and started shooting? Where did he keep the rifle? It will be interesting to see where/how this all plays out.

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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    I agree that in hostage or very violent situations where a gunman assures impending harm, the best method is to simply kill him. It's not like his guilt is in question.

    I do find it distasteful though that this incident is being used as part of the pro-gun agenda. Just because people can carry concealed in some areas does not mean that all factors would line up in their favor in a situation like this. Someone could pull a gun on him and easily get shot dead if he reacts fast enough. I mean, who knows how it could really go down in a situation that is so volatile and unpredictable. Adding more guns does not guarantee a positive outcome per se.

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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I agree that in hostage or very violent situations where a gunman assures impending harm, the best method is to simply kill him. It's not like his guilt is in question.

    I do find it distasteful though that this incident is being used as part of the pro-gun agenda. Just because people can carry concealed in some areas does not mean that all factors would line up in their favor in a situation like this. Someone could pull a gun on him and easily get shot dead if he reacts fast enough. I mean, who knows how it could really go down in a situation that is so volatile and unpredictable. Adding more guns does not guarantee a positive outcome per se.
    I find it just as repulsive when 'news' programs immeidately jump to the "assault rifle" connection and use it as a means of promoting gun control...

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    Re: Gunman Kills Self and Others at CT Company

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I find it just as repulsive when 'news' programs immeidately jump to the "assault rifle" connection and use it as a means of promoting gun control...
    Hence my comments above. Gun proponents, most people aren't going to be carrying a weapon on their person or in their desk at work in corporate America, thus it wouldn't be accessible when needed it in a scenario like this. Gun opponents, you can't outlaw crazy. Banning guns just leads to criminals being the only ones with guns.

    Mass killings are tragedies, but they are tragedies that are very difficult to prevent through gun possession/banning. That's the logical facts.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 08-04-10 at 11:27 AM.

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