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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

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    The underclass is growing, since the Liberals took over the government.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

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    In this country the sins of the mother are not visited on her child; in America a child enters the world innocent and a full citizen of this country. Can you imagine a twenty five year old who has lived their entire life as an American being told that because it was just discovered that their mother wasn't here legally, something they had no knowledge of or certainly any responsibility for, that they themselves are no longer to be treated as a citizen? It's outrageous and bizarre. Addled brained conservatives (not all conservatives, just the really ****ed up ones) endorse such notions.
    If we were to amend the constitution to add a requirement that the mother must be in the U.S. legally, it would not be applied retroactively...
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

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    If we were to amend the constitution to add a requirement that the mother must be in the U.S. legally, it would not be applied retroactively...
    You obviously don't get the point. What would happen if a twenty-five year person's mother turned out to be in the country illegally at the time of their birth? All those twenty five years they thought they were a citizen of the only country they have ever known. Would they no longer be a citizen? Would they be in this country illegally? What country would they "belong" to?
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    You obviously don't get the point. What would happen if a twenty-five year person's mother turned out to be in the country illegally at the time of their birth? All those twenty five years they thought they were a citizen of the only country they have ever known. Would they no longer be a citizen? Would they be in this country illegally? What country would they "belong" to?
    You like "what ifs" don't you? Unfortunately, because the government isn't doing its job, there is a remote possibility of this happening. I say -- too bad... if you are not legally in the U.S., your children don't get citizenship. You know, there are MANY countries in the world where you do NOT get citizenship simply by being born there...
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You like "what ifs" don't you? Unfortunately, because the government isn't doing its job, there is a remote possibility of this happening. I say -- too bad... if you are not legally in the U.S., your children don't get citizenship. You know, there are MANY countries in the world where you do NOT get citizenship simply by being born there...
    Really?.. name 194.

    Hint: All but the US.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Was there a point to this?

    I didn't think so.

    You are dismissed.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Really?.. name 194.

    Hint: All but the US.
    Actually, not quite. Canada, Paraguay and Mexico have birthright citizenship, France gives those born there the right to choose to become French citizens later, Greece has conditional birthright citizenship. Surely, there are others...

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    Canadian Citizenship Act and current issues(BP-445E). Natural-Born Citizens(txt)

    It is interesting that some countries have eliminated birthright citizenship in recent years, including New Zealand, Ireland and in some cases, the United Kingdom.

    In Taiwan, you used to only get citizenship if the FATHER was a citizen, but now you acquire it if either parent is a citizen.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

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    Was there a point to this?

    I didn't think so.

    You are dismissed.
    You post content that was posted on other sites without any attribution. Are you the author?

    I've been a member of another forum where a contributor was simply copying and pasting content from other sites without any acknowledgment that he was not the author. I guess it made him feel important or smart or hot **** or whatever, I don't know. What I know was he was a ****ing scumbag who didn't know ****.

    I just wondered whether you were one of those …
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Sounds like ignoring the question and changing the subject.

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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    You post content that was posted on other sites without any attribution. Are you the author?

    I've been a member of another forum where a contributor was simply copying and pasting content from other sites without any acknowledgment that he was not the author. I guess it made him feel important or smart or hot **** or whatever, I don't know. What I know was he was a ****ing scumbag who didn't know ****.

    I just wondered whether you were one of those …
    Same tactic again, I wonder if this works? Will I persuade people by ignoring what they are saying and starting a mild attack on them? Maybe noone will notice? Hmmm

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