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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    This has nothing to do with Republicans or the Republican party (R.I.P.). It has to do with far too many conservatives who have earned those labels through their idiotic pronouncements, rampant bigotry and bald faced deceits. Honestly, haven't you been paying attention at all to the last thirty years in this country? This attack on the fourteenth amendment is just their latest salvo in their reactionary aggression against America.
    Looks like your answer to his questions are 1) "no" and 2) "yes."
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

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    Your added context changes nothing.
    Sure it does. He apologized for wanting to close the border, not for his thoughts on birthright citizenship. They're not in any way the same thing.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

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    It's like Harry Reid never happened.
    It's as if Harry Reid was never the center of this story in the first place. Wow! Surprise, surprise! Conservatives deflecting attention from their embarrassing attacks on American heritage. Imagine that.

    Within the immigration debate, so-called “anchor babies” are pretty much a non-issue. For such a child to affect the immigration status of their parents, they must be 21-years old. Using a baby ‘dropped’ in this country in such a way represents a 22-plus-year conspiracy to get legal status. How nefarious! Such foresight!

    This thread is about yet another meaningless gesture to garner populist support by political opportunists. And, why not? Politics is about opportunism if it is about nothing else.

    Attacking birthright citizenship feels good despite providing no real hope for progress on immigration issues. Changing the Constitution will take years and achieve nothing significant; even, make things worse. Thank you, Senator Lindsey Graham.

    So many conservatives are terrible hypocrites. They tell us they want to take our country back; but, far from ‘conserving’ what we inherited, they want to take us back to a country that never was, a meaner country, a nastier country. It's as if they were telling us that they have to destroy the country in order to save it. No, thanks, conservatives, no thanks.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    It's as if Harry Reid was never the center of this story in the first place. Wow! Surprise, surprise! Conservatives deflecting attention from their embarrassing attacks on American heritage. Imagine that.

    Within the immigration debate, so-called “anchor babies” are pretty much a non-issue. For such a child to affect the immigration status of their parents, they must be 21-years old. Using a baby ‘dropped’ in this country in such a way represents a 22-plus-year conspiracy to get legal status. How nefarious! Such foresight!

    This thread is about yet another meaningless gesture to garner populist support by political opportunists. And, why not? Politics is about opportunism if it is about nothing else.

    Attacking birthright citizenship feels good despite providing no real hope for progress on immigration issues. Changing the Constitution will take years and achieve nothing significant; even, make things worse. Thank you, Senator Lindsey Graham.

    So many conservatives are terrible hypocrites. They tell us they want to take our country back; but, far from ‘conserving’ what we inherited, they want to take us back to a country that never was, a meaner country, a nastier country. It's as if they were telling us that they have to destroy the country in order to save it. No, thanks, conservatives, no thanks.
    Yes, Chappy, and I'm sure you got every bit as incensed at Harry Reid during the 13 years between his introduction of legislation to take away birthright citizenship and his apology after being confronted with it. I'll just bet you did.

    Points for actually staying in the thread and responding to posts for once, though.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Wow! Yet another conservative offers another off topic contribution to the thread. It's as if the Sun rose in the East two days in a row. It's a total surprise! Maybe they too are recognizing the shamefulness of conservative leadership's assault on the fourteenth amendment.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Wow! Yet another conservative offers another off topic contribution to the thread. It's as if the Sun rose in the East two days in a row. It's a total surprise! Maybe they too are recognizing the shamefulness of conservative leadership's assault on the fourteenth amendment.
    Do you ever make a post that isn't full of hyperpartisan, mouthfoaming rant?

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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Wow! Yet another conservative offers another off topic contribution to the thread. It's as if the Sun rose in the East two days in a row. It's a total surprise! Maybe they too are recognizing the shamefulness of conservative leadership's assault on the fourteenth amendment.
    In a thread discussing a proposal to end birthright citizenship (and Harry Reid's condemnation of it), Harry Reid's proposal to end birthright citizenship is off topic?

    Keep fighting that war.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Do you ever make a post that isn't full of hyperpartisan, mouthfoaming rant?
    And, jallman weighs in with another meaningless offering. Who'd of thunk it? This thread about conservatives tearing up the American legacy sure is attracting all kinds of distractions — there must be all kinds of angst that their leadership has gone too far this time. They'd be right.
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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    I am going to put something out there that may or may not be popular, I could care less.

    I don't think it is a smart strategy for Republicans to attack the 14th Amendment at all. They are alienating quite a large block of Americans with this rhetoric, that would never happen in the first place.

    I think all they need to do is the KISS method, and not the band but the Keep it simple method. Stick to securing the border and visiting what to do with those already here after that is done.

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    Re: GOP leader McConnell: Fourteenth Amendment is in need of review

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am going to put something out there that may or may not be popular, I could care less.

    I don't think it is a smart strategy for Republicans to attack the 14th Amendment at all. They are alienating quite a large block of Americans with this rhetoric, that would never happen in the first place.

    I think all they need to do is the KISS method, and not the band but the Keep it simple method. Stick to securing the border and visiting what to do with those already here after that is done.

    j-mac
    I think they've realized that this is the best approach as well. A majority of Americans agree with the general concepts behind it, so there's no need to hammer this one into the ground.
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