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Catz Part Deux said:
The new testament didn't exist when the crusades occurred?
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Again, 16 years teaching Christianity..LMAO Once again you demonstrate your inability to read and your religious ignorance.

I'm going to make a suggestion that you won't follow. Mostly because it is a sizable investment in time and money. Take a look at what courses are available at a local theological seminary. Try to pick one that has some scholarly repute. There will be a course covering New Testament history with some in depth analysis and criticisms.

He isn't the one who looks ignorant here.
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Tell me where, the IRA is acting in the name of The Church or with the Pope's blessing?

Has the Church condoned the actions of the IRA? Has the IRA ever claimed to act as an agent of the Church?

You are way OVER your head, lady
 
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JohnWOlin said:
Well whatever, you're all retarded. Keep going in circles with this, I'm going to go back to a thread that is a little less pointless...this might take awhile.
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Grab a clue here. Its called STEPPING OUT OF YOUR LANE
 
ric27 said:
Again, 16 years teaching Christianity..LMAO Once again you demonstrate your inability to read and your religious ignorance.

I'm going to make a suggestion that you won't follow. Mostly because it is a sizable investment in time and money. Take a look at what courses are available at a local theological seminary. Try to pick one that has some scholarly repute. There will be a course covering New Testament history with some in depth analysis and criticisms.
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OK, I suggest you ask an average Muslim (have you ever even met one?) and talk to them about Islam; chances are they won't fit your brutish stereotype.

ric27 said:
Tell me where, the IRA is acting in the name of The Church or with the Pope's blessing?

Has the Church condoned the actions of the IRA? Has the IRA ever claimed to act as an agent of the Church?

You are way OVER your head, lady
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Tell me where a large majority of Muslims condoned the 9-11 attacks.
 
ric27 said:
Grab a clue here. Its called STEPPING OUT OF YOUR LANE
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Yes, you should always stay in your lane, dammit!

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DrunkenAsparagus said:
I see a lot of the Tea Partiers here complaining about being shoved into a single, childish stereotype doing the exact same thing to Muslims.
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Which mainstream branch of Islam doesn't proscribe the death penalty and/or corporal punishment for homosexuality, apostasy, adultery, and/or premarital sex?
 
j-mac said:
Palestine.





j-mac
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and what about these?

If we are swift to condemn all muslims because of SOME reactions. What about these?

Top Muslim organizations in the United States were swift to condemn the attacks on 9/11 and called "upon Muslim Americans to come forward with their skills and resources to help alleviate the sufferings of the affected people and their families". Top organizations include: Islamic Society of North America, American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Circle of North America, and the Shari'a Scholars Association of North America. Along with massive monetary donations, many Islamic organizations launched blood drives and provided medical assistance, food, and shelter for victims.
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Huge crowds attended candlelit vigils in Iran, and 60,000 spectators observed a minute's silence at Tehran football stadium
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DrunkenAsparagus said:
OK, I suggest you ask an average Muslim (have you ever even met one?) and talk to them about Islam; chances are they won't fit your brutish stereotype.
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More than what YOU imagine

Tell me where a large majority of Muslims condoned the 9-11 attacks.
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I don't think it is much of a stretch at all to say that 90% of all significant terrorist incidents in the last 50 years have been perpetrated by Muslim terrorists in the name of Islam...True or false? and their official voices do not condemn the groups that commit these acts - at best, they express regret at the loss of life. Not the same thing at all, dude
 
Agent Ferris said:
Which mainstream branch of Islam doesn't proscribe the death penalty and/or corporal punishment for homosexuality, apostasy, adultery, and/or premarital sex?
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American Islam.
 
ric27 said:
I don't think it is much of a stretch at all to say that 90% of all significant terrorist incidents in the last 50 years have been perpetrated by Muslim terrorists in the name of Islam...True or false? and their official voices do not condemn the groups that commit these acts - at best, they express regret at the loss of life. Not the same thing at all, dude
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90%, false. The IRA was very active the past 50 years. It wasn't until relatively recently they changed to organized crime; though they're starting to make a comeback now.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Which mainstream branch of Islam doesn't proscribe the death penalty and/or corporal punishment for homosexuality, apostasy, adultery, and/or premarital sex?
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Agent Ferris said:
American Islam doesn't subscribe to any of the 5 mainstream schools of Islam? Really? All American Muslims are Sufi's? :roll:
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Are you aware of your original claim?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
American Islam.
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What has "American" Islam done that is good? How many go out and actually work to improve the improverished, famine stricken lives of their Muslim bro third world? How long has Islam held the throat of the 10-40 window in a death clutch? Islam has done NOTHING for the world but enslave, murder, rape, and terrorize.

You can stick that progressive bull**** somewhere else
 
ric27 said:
What has "American" Islam done that is good?
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So a religion has to prove that it has done some good to be legal in your perfect world? Nice.

Glad we have the Constitution in this jurisdiction. Freedom of religion and such.
 
ric27 said:
What has "American" Islam done that is good? How many go out and actually work to improve the improverished, famine stricken lives of their Muslim bro third world? How long has Islam held the throat of the 10-40 window in a death clutch? Islam has done NOTHING for the world but enslave, murder, rape, and terrorize.

You can stick that progressive bull**** somewhere else
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Wow. I mean, do you have stats that back up anything you're saying here? Or is this just ramblings off the top of your head based on your own bias and bigotry. I've known several Muslims, none of them match your description. In fact, my Muslim roommate often volunteered in the local soup kitchen and homeless shelters in town. He liked it. How many Christians have done good? How many go out (as a percentage of the community) and actually work to improve the impoverished? I know several, but there are a lot more Christians than Muslims (in America), so relatively the number of Christians should be greater. And what does any of this have to do with the first amendment and property rights?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
If we are a "Christian Nation" and Christianity is so peaceful, then why are we always at war?
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Islam is at war. Islam is "the problem" - they made it so. They are the ones claiming to act in its name. Everywhere in this world that Islam comes into contact with any other religion, there is war. While there has been conflict in the past, today, Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists tend to get along fine
 
Ikari said:
90%, false. The IRA was very active the past 50 years. It wasn't until relatively recently they changed to organized crime; though they're starting to make a comeback now.
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How many hard corps members of the IRA do you think there were? I doubt it was ever more than 2k. It took them 30 years to kill 1,800. The GSJ managed twice that in a couple of hours.

Nope, 90% ain't much of a stretch at all...
 
ric27 said:
How many hard corps members of the IRA do you think there were? I doubt it was ever more than 2k. It took them 30 years to kill 1,800. The GSJ managed twice that in a couple of hours.

Nope, 90% ain't much of a stretch at all...
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You said 90% of significant terrorist incidents. Not deaths. Those 3,000 came from a single incident. As for number of members, the IRA is localized to Ireland and thus the available population to draw from is much smaller. Percentage wise though, it was rather large. Even so, with the IRA it was more Catholic vs. Protestant sort of thing whicih lasted till like '97 or something close to it. And is experiencing a resurgence. In terms of terrorist incidents the IRA was very very active in the past 50 years and contributed to several major terrorist events against the UK. It's not a stretch to say they contributed to over 10% of the terrorist incidents.
 
hey Ikari, clear some space so the PM can be delivered.


j-mac
 
ric27 said:
What has "American" Islam done that is good? How many go out and actually work to improve the improverished, famine stricken lives of their Muslim bro third world? How long has Islam held the throat of the 10-40 window in a death clutch? Islam has done NOTHING for the world but enslave, murder, rape, and terrorize.
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Move the goalposts much?
 
ric27 said:
Islam is at war. Islam is "the problem" - they made it so. They are the ones claiming to act in its name. Everywhere in this world that Islam comes into contact with any other religion, there is war. While there has been conflict in the past, today, Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists tend to get along fine
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Islam is not at war. That idea is ridiculous.

If a lady says that Jesus told her to drown her five kids in the bathtub do you blame all of Christianity?
 
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