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Ground zero mosque wins key vote

The Prof said:
they vote

so does the rest of the country

and if 58% of NEW YORKERS are pissed...
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So they are pissed at the New York City council because they didn't overturn something they had no legal reason to overturn?
 
you'd have to ask them WHY they're pissed

just the fact that they are is enough

come election day
 
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The Prof said:
you'd have to ask them WHY they're pissed

just the fact that they are is enough

come election day
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So if I get a bunch of people who are pissed off because a church was built near their neighborhood I can get the government to take it down?

Real nice logic there. :roll:
 
leave it up

and pay the political price

for defying the clearly expressed will of the people

go for it!
 
The Prof said:
leave it up

and pay the political price

for defying the clearly expressed will of the people

go for it!
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OK and the next group will have to still allow it to stay up because it was legally obtained.
 
soccerboy22 said:
OK and the next group will have to still allow it to stay up because it was legally obtained.
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fine with me

i like that part about the next group, tho

thanks
 
Catz Part Deux said:
There is nothing about leaves and rain in it, though.

:prof Aren't there supposed to be natural objects in a haiku?
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It's not a true haiku if the last line doesn't contain seasonal imagery.
 
Your Star said:
But Islamic terrorists aren't building the mosque, so I don't see how it could be an insult. Unless you are equating all Muslims with terrorists.
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Now in a book published back in 2004, "What Is Right With Islam," Feisal Abdul Rauf, he wrote of his fondness for Sharia Law and his belief that the U.S. can accommodate it. He argued, quote, that "the American political structure is Sharia compliant," continuing, quote, "For America to score even higher on the 'Islamic' or 'Sharia' compliance scale, America would need to do two things: invite the voices of all religions to join the dialogue in shaping the nation's practical life, and allow religious communities more leeway to judge among themselves according to their own laws."
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Inside the Push for Ground Zero-Area Mosque - Hannity - FOXNews.com

You don't really get Islam, so it's okay you DO get PC poli-speak, so I forgive you.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Please stop pretending that Sean Hannity is a reliable source, Mr. V. You've got to stop taking people like that seriously, and do your own thinking. You're too good for this.
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and COUNT SYLLABLES!

that's what the real heavyweights do!

LOL!
 
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I have not been following this story closely, so I'm not sure of what all the issues are.

However, wouldn't the ultimate act of 'Christian' charity and forgiveness be to allow the Mosque to go up? Wouldn't that send a message to muslims who might be on the fence about how they practice their faith -- to those of you who want to practice peacefully, we forgive those who chose to practice mass murder.

It's a powerful thing, forgiveness.

Intolerance breeds hate, hate breeds violence.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Please stop pretending that Sean Hannity is a reliable source, Mr. V. You've got to stop taking people like that seriously, and do your own thinking. You're too good for this.
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Catz, HAnnity had the quote from the book. The part where the Imam behind this Mosque wants to implement Sharia Law in the USA.

Now, if this is false, PLEASE, show me my error. If all you are going to do is point out that Hannity brought it to light, I shall take that as you cannot dispute the facts and are left with nothing else.

YOU are better then that Catz.
 
hazlnut said:
I have not been following this story closely, so I'm not sure of what all the issues are.

However, wouldn't the ultimate act of 'Christian' charity and forgiveness be to allow the Mosque to go up? Wouldn't that send a message to muslims who might be on the fence about how they practice their faith -- to those of you who want to practice peacefully, we forgive those who chose to practice mass murder.

It's a powerful thing, forgiveness.

Intolerance breeds hate, hate breeds violence.
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Christianity has nothing to do with this. The fail is all yours
 
well, if a person can't respond to political arguments, one can always just start COUNTING

LOL!
 
MrVicchio said:
Catz, HAnnity had the quote from the book. The part where the Imam behind this Mosque wants to implement Sharia Law in the USA.

Now, if this is false, PLEASE, show me my error. If all you are going to do is point out that Hannity brought it to light, I shall take that as you cannot dispute the facts and are left with nothing else.

YOU are better then that Catz.
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So what if the imam wants to implement sharia law? There are polygamists who want to marry 14 year olds in Utah.

Two thoughts:

1) Wanting ain't getting.

2) The odds of sharia being legalized are about the same as marriage with 14 year olds being legalized nationally.

I'm not going to worry about what someone else believes until his/her beliefs impact me.

I don't believe in thought crimes.

Do you, Mr. V?
 
MrVicchio said:
Inside the Push for Ground Zero-Area Mosque - Hannity - FOXNews.com

You don't really get Islam, so it's okay you DO get PC poli-speak, so I forgive you.
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And this ties him to a terrorist organization how?
I don't agree with him about Sharia Law, and we have laws to protect us from such laws, but thats no justification to deny the mosque being built. If a religious figure wanting religion to impact laws affected property rights then alot of churches would have to be shut down.
 
hazlnut said:
I have not been following this story closely, so I'm not sure of what all the issues are.

However, wouldn't the ultimate act of 'Christian' charity and forgiveness be to allow the Mosque to go up? Wouldn't that send a message to muslims who might be on the fence about how they practice their faith -- to those of you who want to practice peacefully, we forgive those who chose to practice mass murder.

It's a powerful thing, forgiveness.

Intolerance breeds hate, hate breeds violence.
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And your ignorance is the problem.

Forgiveness doesn't mean letting people **** on you. And that's what this Mosque is. Forgiveness doesn't do much when the purpose of the act, the Mosque, is to put up a giant Monument to the greatness of Islam at the site of it's greatest attack.

That's what this is gang, think whatever you want otherwise, this Mosque isn't about peace and understanding, it's about triumph and glory.

THEY KNOW that America is full of people that are soooo scared to offend Islam, that they MOCK YOU with acts like this. Until Islam as a whole undergoes a trans-formative movement (like Christianity did), you cannot trust Islam as a whole.

ARE THERE GOOD DECENT HONEST PEACE LOVING MUSLIMS? YOU BET YOUR ASS there are. And how many of them would think building this mosque, on this site was anything less then a provocative act? Hmm?

That's the point here folks. Some of you are so caught up in this IGNORANT "We must embrace Islam and think only GOOD or we're bigoted haters" mentality that you miss what's right before you! You miss the truth!

If they wanted to build an... Islamic Outreach Center near the WTC site, that's cool. But a MOSQUE has meaning, and most of you just think it's "church", that shows how little you understand what's really going on here.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
So what if the imam wants to implement sharia law? There are polygamists who want to marry 14 year olds in Utah.

Two thoughts:

1) Wanting ain't getting.

2) The odds of sharia being legalized are about the same as marriage with 14 year olds being legalized nationally.

I'm not going to worry about what someone else believes until his/her beliefs impact me.

I don't believe in thought crimes.

Do you, Mr. V?
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Okay, Catz, My point against this Mosque is that it's being pushed for.. the Glory of Islam over the Enemy, (That'd be us for those of you that don't get it) and this Imam who is trying to build it, has shown he has a desire to push Sharia (a barbaric, and cruel system of religious control that violates basic human rights) Law in America.

So which is right? The belief this Mosque is a Peace Beacon? Or an Emblem of Islamic Greatness.

It's not about "Thought Crimes" or other non-sense Catz, it's about purpose, meaning and goals, things you refuse to discuss. I love ya Catz, I do, but you're on the wrong side here.
 
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