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Ground zero mosque wins key vote

Having the right and being right are two different things.

We are being hoisted on our own petard.
 
Gipper said:
North Carolina BBQ is not very good. Too vinegar-y.
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That's what makes it one of the best. It ain't made with just tomatoes and brown sugar. It has essence to it! The vinegar based BBQ is superior in all ways, shapes, and forms.
 
Ikari said:
I'm sorry that you don't know what good barbecue is.


hehehe, I'm just messin'
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Hah, me too, although barbecue is serious business to me. Because I am, after all, from Kansas City, where barbecue is a religious experience.

For the record, the secret in Missouri isn't in the sauce, it's in the smoke...long smoking with hickory. The sauce is just a bonus.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Apple and pecan are both good, but hickory is required. I've even used cherry, in a pinch. But NEVER, EVER mesquite.
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not a fan of mesquite....

Yes, hickory and fruit wood.... I make an apple bbq sauce that pairs nicely with applewood.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I'll tell you what. We'll come to your farm and tell you what to do with your land, next.
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In that case, you WOULDN'T have the right unless I granted it, so your analogy is flawed.

In case you missed it, however, I will restate that they have the right. As far as rights are concerned, however, I might remind you that I havethe right to point out that this is a symbolic act of Islamic conquest quite consistant with the pattern set by 1500 years of Muslim aggression, and that it is my right to express my objection to it.
 
Gardener said:
In that case, you WOULDN'T have the right unless I granted it, so your analogy is flawed.
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No, it's not. It's private property. The state has no reason to interfere in their plans except for zoning requirements. Same as your farm.

It annoys the shiz out of you that no one seems to care about the mosque now, though.
 
Gardener said:
.... I might remind you that I havethe right to point out that this is a symbolic act of Islamic conquest quite consistant with the pattern set by 1500 years of Muslim aggression, and that it is my right to express my objection to it.
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Except just because some mosque constructions are done this way doesn't mean every mosque construction is done out of that intent.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
No, it's not. It's private property. The state has no reason to interfere in their plans except for zoning requirements. Same as your farm.

It annoys the shiz out of you that no one seems to care about the mosque now, though.
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I didn't say the state SHOULD interfere.

Having trouble understanding the statement "they have the right" today, are we?
 
Gardener said:
I didn't say the state SHOULD interfere.

Having trouble understanding the statement "they have the right" today, are we?
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I've never had a problem with that issue. I'm not the one who is promoting interfering in their construction plans, dude. Or, calling a mosque construction an act of war. :roll:
 
Hatuey said:
McVeigh didn't have thousands of his supporters jump out unto the streets screaming and chanting 'death to America' either. He also didn't carry his act in the name of Christianity.
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US Mosque-goers did that after 9/11?
 
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I was really glad to hear this news. This was really the only lawful way the anti-Islamic faction had to block this wonderful mosque, and I was afraid for a while that they might actually succeed. But it appears that common sense can still carry the day even in the face of the worst Tea Party xenophobia, that gives me hope.

And honestly, how absurd would it be for the site of a former Burlington Coat Factory to be declared "historic."
 
Guy Incognito said:
I was really glad to hear this news. This was really the only lawful way the anti-Islamic faction had to block this wonderful mosque, and I was afraid for a while that they might actually succeed. But it appears that common sense can still carry the day even in the face of the worst Tea Party xenophobia, that gives me hope.

And honestly, how absurd would it be for the site of a former Burlington Coat Factory to be declared "historic."
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There is nothing "wonderful" about this "mosque", it is an insult to both muslims and non muslims alike, you don't "build bridges" by being an asshole.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
There is nothing "wonderful" about this "mosque", it is an insult to both muslims and non muslims alike, you don't "build bridges" by being an asshole.
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True, but there ain't no law against being an asshole.

Now where's my BBQ!!??
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
There is nothing "wonderful" about this "mosque", it is an insult to both muslims and non muslims alike, you don't "build bridges" by being an asshole.
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Nonsense, the only people offended by this mosque are those people who are ignorant enough to conflate terrorist criminals with the entirety of the Islamic religion. Any sensible person can see this for what it is, a place of worship for a peaceful world religion, and an important symbol of unity in the face of divisive racism.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Nonsense, the only people offended by this mosque are those people who are ignorant enough to conflate terrorist criminals with the entirety of the Islamic religion. Any sensible person can see this for what it is, a place of worship for a peaceful world religion, and an important symbol of unity in the face of divisive racism.
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So 10 years after pearl harbor, a Japanese cultural center at Pearl harbor would go over well?


Please, they have every right to be assholes and move there, We have every right to call them assholes without the cackling nonsense of being called "Racists"....


The imam in question blames partially the US for the 911 attacks and refuses to call hezbollah a terrorist organization.... Building "bridges" my ass.
 
BCR said:
Still don't see a reason to be upset, people should be able to distinguish that the people building this Mosque are peaceful Muslims while the ones who destroyed the twin towers were extremists.
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Who do you think backed this mosque? Peaceful Muslims with common sense or decency wouldn't build a ****ing Mosque anywhere NEAR the WTC site.
 
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