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Ground zero mosque wins key vote

texmaster said:
The only thing stupid here is your willfull ignorance of discovering the truth behind where this money is coming from.
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Unless they are legally obliged to make public where they are receiving the funds. They have no reason to disclose it to appease fools like yourself.

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texmaster said:
What evidence do you want? He is refusing to say where the money is coming from and its already proven his organization does not have the funds to do so on their own.
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I would like real evidence. Hearsay and conjecture ain't enough. Why does he have to tell you the source of his money? If I wanted to build something and a bunch of hostile jerks were trying to infringe upon my rights and then wanted to know where my money came from, I'd tell the little douchebags to piss off; ain't none of their business. Why do they have to tell you anything? Thus far they have acted 100% within their rights and liberties, and there's nothing you can legitimately do until that statement becomes false.
 
Laila said:
Unless they are legally obliged to make public where they are receiving the funds. They have no reason to disclose it to appease fools like yourself.

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LOL How rich is it for you to call me foolish because I want to know where this money is coming from. I'll ask you again, are you so ignorant of current events you have no knowledge of this imam's ties to terrorism and his comments about 9.11? Please tell me you are more learned than that.
 
texmaster said:
What part of he is refusing to say where the money is coming from don't you understand?
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What part of hearsay, conjecture, and supposition do you not understand? None of those are valid forms of proof.
 
Ikari said:
I would like real evidence. Hearsay and conjecture ain't enough. Why does he have to tell you the source of his money? If I wanted to build something and a bunch of hostile jerks were trying to infringe upon my rights and then wanted to know where my money came from, I'd tell the little douchebags to piss off; ain't none of their business. Why do they have to tell you anything? Thus far they have acted 100% within their rights and liberties, and there's nothing you can legitimately do until that statement becomes false.
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Because of his past ties to terrorism and his past statements. His refusal to say where the money is coming from. These are not unreasonable questions for people who actually care about this issue.
 
texmaster said:
What part of he is refusing to say where the money is coming from don't you understand?
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Is there any law stating that he must tell people where he is getting the money from?
 
texmaster said:
LOL How rich is it for you to call me foolish because I want to know where this money is coming from. I'll ask you again, are you so ignorant of current events you have no knowledge of this imam's ties to terrorism and his comments about 9.11? Please tell me you are more learned than that.
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Why do you hate your constitution so or are you only Conservative when it suits you?

Government shouldn't get involved in private business unless it suits your agenda ofc.
They are not breaking no law and as far as I know, Senate has passed no law stating they should disclose it.
 
Ikari said:
What part of hearsay, conjecture, and supposition do you not understand? None of those are valid forms of proof.
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Are you so ignorant of current events you have no knowledge of this imam's ties to terrorism and his comments about 9.11? Please tell me you are more learned than that.
 
I would REALLY like to open up a giant pork barbaque shop that serves drinks by scantilly clad women right across the street. :thumbs:
 
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What evidence from a reliable source is there that he has these ties?
 
Laila said:
Why do you hate your constitution so or are you only Conservative when it suits you?
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I take it that means you have no clue about his past. Got it.

Government shouldn't get involved in private business unless it suits your agenda ofc.
They are not breaking no law, why should they disclose it?
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If they are taking terrorist money yes that would be breaking the law. Is that so hard to follow?
 
texmaster said:
Because of his past ties to terrorism and his past statements. His refusal to say where the money is coming from. These are not unreasonable questions for people who actually care about this issue.
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And I think the people who "care" about this should mind their own beeswax. While you have some questions, you have no valid answers. So where the hell does that leave us? Square one. Come back when you have evidence.
 
texmaster said:
If they are taking terrorist money yes that would be breaking the law. Is that so hard to follow?
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It's not hard to follow, we merely asked you for evidence. Is that so hard to follow?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I would REALLY like to open up a giant pork barbaque shop that serves drinks by scantilly clad women right across the street. :thumbs:
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LOL
Your number 1 customers would probably be the people across the street (for the women not the pork) :p
 
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I would REALLY like to open up a giant pork barbaque shop that serves drinks by scantilly clad women right across the street. :thumbs:
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And I would 100% support you in that effort if you so wished. You're free to open up that shop as much as they are free to make the mosque. But I don't know if New Yorkers know good barbecue. And what style you going for?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I would REALLY like to open up a giant pork barbaque shop that serves drinks by scantilly clad women right across the street. :thumbs:
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OK. Are you getting the money for your venture from Porky Pig? You must disclose it. And don't tell me it's none of my business, or give me any crap about the Constitution. I watched Glenn Beck today, and he says you have to do it. :mrgreen:
 
Ikari said:
And I would 100% support you in that effort if you so wished. You're free to open up that shop as much as they are free to make the mosque. But I don't know if New Yorkers know good barbecue. And what style you going for?
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you're kidding right?


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My style?


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texmaster said:
Its fun pissing on the victim's families of 9.11 isn't it Catz?

There are plenty of questions to ask. Like where this money is coming from. This imam has ties to terrorists groups like Hamas. If he is getting his money from there this should never happen.
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I thought real conservatives believed in property rights.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
Links?

What evidence from a reliable source is there that he has these ties?
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. Sharif El-Gamal is CEO of Soho Properties, Inc., a commercial real estate investment firm he founded in 2003. His partner is Nour Mousa, another guiding figure in the Ground Zero mosque effort and the nephew of Amr Moussa, head of the Arab League. Amr Moussa was the first major Arab leader to go to Gaza and affirm support for Hamas.

The idea of building an Islamic peace memorial in lower Manhattan was circulating as early as 2003. Its early proponents were two Iranian brothers, M. Jafar "Amir" Mahallati, who served as ambassador of the Iranian Islamic Republic to the United Nations from 1987 to 1989, and M. Hossein Mahallati. Amir Mahallati had served with Rauf in the leadership of an obscure nonprofit, the Interfaith Center of New York, for which Rauf was a vice chair and Mahallati a board member. The two had also participated in a 2006 radio program, "From Turmoil to Tourism: Following the Path of Abraham."

EXPLOSIVE: Masking Mega Mosque Terror Ties, New Jihadist Same As the Old Jihadist, Only Worse - Atlas Shrugs

Not only does he have ties to terrorists like Hamas, he has direct links to Iran, the world's largest terrorist state.

And he blames Americans for 9.11

New York-based Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who impressed Mr Carr at an international conference last year, arrives in Sydney today for two weeks of meetings and public talks.

Speaking from his New York mosque, Imam Feisal said the West had to understand the terrorists' point of view.

In a move likely to cause controversy with church leaders, Imam Feisal said it was Christians who started mass attacks on civilians.

"The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. But it was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets."

Feisal Abdul Rauf blames Christians - Jihad Watch

I can already hear the Muslim apologies screaming about the source but unless you have proof he did not say what was quoted go back to your hole of denial.

This guy not only has ties to terrorism he blames americans for the 9.11 attacks even if in part and refuses to say where the money is coming from. That alone for any rational thinking person should dictate the source of thse 100 million should be explored to make sure it doesn't share the same ties to terrorism as this imam does.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I thought real conservatives believed in property rights.
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We do. We just don't believe in property rights supported by terrorist money.

I know its hard concept for you to follow.
 
texmaster said:
We do. We just don't believe in property rights supported by terrorist money.

I know its hard concept for you to follow.
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You still have not provided evidence .... we are waiting
 
Let me re-iterate my position as one who lost family and friends in the WTC attacks. These muslims have every right to be assholes and put this mosque here. Does not mean they are not assholes though.
 
texmaster said:
We do. We just don't believe in property rights supported by terrorist money.

I know its hard concept for you to follow.
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Translation: We believe in property rights, unless we want to accuse someone of being a terrorist, without any evidence to support it. Then he doesn't have any rights, and deserves to die.
 
texmaster said:
We do. We just don't believe in property rights supported by terrorist money.

I know its hard concept for you to follow.
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If the property is being susidized by terrorist dollars, why isn't this issue being prosecuted by the feds? Having some familiarity with the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, I'm pretty sure your claim is crap.
 
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