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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    That's equally ridiculous.
    As silly as painting an entire religion (Christianity) on what a few nutjobs did with abortion clinics? Because I've seen it. Or say painting Christian's as evil as radical Muslim's are because of the Crusades? Yep, check....


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    I've not seen many people, save for some of the most militant athiests, argue that Christians are as evil as muslims because of the crusades. What I've seen is people make the suggestion that Christianity can be USED for evil and can be twisted and has had its black eyes of barbarity similar to what Islam has by pointing to the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Witch Trials, and onwards. Which is an entirely legitimate argument and speaks more towards the ability for religions to be misused by culture and societies seeking to have a tool to manipulate people into evil things rather than speaking to the inate "evilness" of a religion.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I've not seen many people, save for some of the most militant athiests, argue that Christians are as evil as muslims because of the crusades. What I've seen is people make the suggestion that Christianity can be USED for evil and can be twisted and has had its black eyes of barbarity similar to what Islam has by pointing to the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Witch Trials, and onwards. Which is an entirely legitimate argument and speaks more towards the ability for religions to be misused by culture and societies seeking to have a tool to manipulate people into evil things rather than speaking to the inate "evilness" of a religion.
    Try and bare with me...Hope it doesn't kill you!

    Here is a very fine and difficult line. We are fighting a war on Terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, and a few other places. One of our potential war zones is Iran. The most common characteristic in almost all cases is that the Islamic religion cannot be separated from the people, the war or the terrorists. It is integral. Because of the nature of Islam, those countries are virtually 100% Islamic and the religion is a central part of the reasons for conflict. It is impossible to discuss what they do, why they do it and how to combat them without the religion coming into discussion.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As silly as painting an entire religion (Christianity) on what a few nutjobs did with abortion clinics? Because I've seen it. Or say painting Christian's as evil as radical Muslim's are because of the Crusades? Yep, check....


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    More than what YOU imagine

    I'd love to hear about this

    I don't think it is much of a stretch at all to say that 90% of all significant terrorist incidents in the last 50 years have been perpetrated by Muslim terrorists in the name of Islam...True or false? and their official voices do not condemn the groups that commit these acts - at best, they express regret at the loss of life. Not the same thing at all, dude
    No one's denying that some Muslims are terrorists. What others don't buy into is that 90% of Muslims are terrorists or terrorist supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Which mainstream branch of Islam doesn't proscribe the death penalty and/or corporal punishment for homosexuality, apostasy, adultery, and/or premarital sex?
    Why don't you ask the average Muslim on their opinion f executing these people, not some theocratic government.

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    Palestine.





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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    baldwin of flanders isn't bothering anyone

    at least, not in new york

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Try and bare with me...Hope it doesn't kill you!

    Here is a very fine and difficult line. We are fighting a war on Terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, and a few other places. One of our potential war zones is Iran. The most common characteristic in almost all cases is that the Islamic religion cannot be separated from the people, the war or the terrorists. It is integral. Because of the nature of Islam, those countries are virtually 100% Islamic and the religion is a central part of the reasons for conflict. It is impossible to discuss what they do, why they do it and how to combat them without the religion coming into discussion.
    America's two major conflicts in the Cold War were in Asian countries. A common characteristic of these people is that they're Asian. Asians are un-American Totalitarians.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Try and bare with me...Hope it doesn't kill you!
    None of us wants to get naked with you, Ric. Sorry to disappoint.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    None of us wants to get naked with you, Ric. Sorry to disappoint.
    lol...I'm 6' 1" and an avid jogger, but thats cool

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    lol...I'm 6' 1" and an avid jogger, but thats cool
    Yeah, yeah. We're all 6'1" and athletic on the internet.

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