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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Did you happen to see the guy(think he was from the State Dept.)? Anyway he was ummming all over the place trying to explain why we were sending this guy to the ME on taxpayers dime. He was trying to say it's nothing unusual, though he failed as far I'm concerned.
    Yeah, P.J. Crowley....Obama's gift to the state dept straight out of the Centers for American Progress.


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    you know you bore the hell out of me boo, you should feel privileged I wasted this much time with you.
    I'd rather be impressed with you making a sound argument. Spend more time than one liners and silliness, always turning personal. But, what can you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'd rather be impressed with you making a sound argument. Spend more time than one liners and silliness, always turning personal. But, what can you do? :wave:


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I guess they feel they do....this is the stated mission.



    so there you have it.


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    You realize how ridiculous it is to think that the State Department is the final arbiter of who shall speak on behalf of every American Muslim, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I also paid attention to all the times you tried to equate position 3 with position 1.
    Feel free to point them out.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    You realize how ridiculous it is to think that the State Department is the final arbiter of who shall speak on behalf of every American Muslim, right?

    Look, I am just telling you what the Obama administration thinks, and since they are sending him abroad to speak on behalf of American Muslims, they think he does. Your beef is with the Obama administration, not me.


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Lord knows lower Manhattan needs another gay bar within walking distance, too ...
    This is a serious thing that a few conservatives are proposing to do.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote
    Originally Posted by Coronado
    Ah, so the State Department runs Islam in America. Gotcha.
    I guess they feel they do....this is the stated mission.


    “He is a distinguished Muslim cleric,” said State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley. “We do have a program whereby, through our Educational and Cultural Affairs Bureau here at the State Department, we send people from Muslim communities here in this country around the world to help people overseas understand our society and the role of religion within our society.”

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    “It is to foster greater understanding and outreach around the world, among… Muslim- majority communities,” said Crowley. “We've done this many, many times, with many leading figures… over the past few years.”

    Confirmed: State Dept. Sending Ground Zero Mosque Imam on Middle East Junket | The Weekly Standard
    so there you have it.


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    Yea, that sounds like what I saw on TV. Only thing is, reading it is different than watching it. He was sayimg Umm constantly and tripping over his words. I got the impression he was lying and not comfortable doing it.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Is the fact that this guy making this mosque works for the US news to any of you? I thought this was explained when the story first got hot.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    The point is, most Christians would put faith above country, just as most Muslims.
    The source documents for Christians absolutely oppose violence to spread religion. It is allowed for self defense and by law enforcement. It doesn't even allow violence in response to petty insults and forbids vengeance.

    The Christian church is not Islam and its leaders exercise far less authority and power over their members than do Imams, Mullahs, etc. The problem is, Islam calls for the subjugation and conversion of the world, by all means, including lying, murder and terror.

    Muslim culture lives an eye for an eye. The rule of secular, civil law is secondary to the "right" of a family or tribe to make their own justice by killing someone on the other side. Back & forth with almost no one willing to step back from the next act of revenge.

    Pat Robertson?
    Now you're really reaching. He doesn't represent a large segment of Christianity, let alone a majority. And no one has committed a murder or other act of violence because of his citation of an Old Testament command as justification. And before you bring up the nutcases that have bombed abortion clinics, they have been condemned by most Christians and Christian leaders (99%+ ?), and have been tracked down, captured and prosecuted by people who (most probably) are Christian.

    Billy Graham?
    Billy Graham (I'm not of his denomination by the way), I think he has never been involved in scandal and has kept himself clean.


    I don't know about the other dude...

    Coronado - You can keep squirming around this, but the fact is, you ****ed up. You don't differentiate between different religions and you don't make objective observations, comparisons or points.
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