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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well its a South African Word which is basically our version of the N word. It has no other meaning.


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    it's "kafir" not "kaffir" the latter being a derogatory word used in S. Africa to describe black folk, nothing to do with what I have in my sig.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Is there anybody here that can summarize the main points, and main sides here? From what I gather we have -a few- sides on the issue.

    -"for it because that is what America is about" side.
    -"for it because who cares" side
    -"for it because then we can turn it all into a joke and make a gay bar next to it" side


    -"against it because that is what America is about" side.
    -"against it because remember 9/11?" side
    -"against because other countries don't do it (and we ALWAYS follow what other countries do)" side
    -"against it because the middle east people woudldn't let us make a church" side
    -"against it because I hate Islam and I think I'm a ****ing religious scholar" side
    -"against it because I hate Islam, A-RABS, MEX-EE-CANS, and anybody else that smells like farts from time to time" side
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    yes, the way you debate is all to often dishonest.
    Is this where you stop trying to defend your position? Maybe Ikari can get a better response from you.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Nevermind sorry. I thought the guy on the previous page was reffering to a post and not your sig.

    Have a nice day

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So Muslims from all the states and territories got together and unanimously chose this man to speak for them?

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is at the center of efforts to build a mosque near the site of the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York. He is going to the Middle East on a trip funded by the State Department.

    U.S. to send imam in ground zero debate to Middle East – Religion - CNN.com Blogs

    Nope, Just the State Dept....That is all he needs.


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is this where you stop trying to defend your position? Maybe Ikari can get a better response from you.



    you know you bore the hell out of me boo, you should feel privileged I wasted this much time with you.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    -"for it because then we can turn it all into a joke and make a gay bar next to it" side
    Now THERE'S an idea I can support!

    Lord knows lower Manhattan needs another gay bar within walking distance, too ...

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nope, Just the State Dept....That is all he needs.


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    Ah, so the State Department runs Islam in America. Gotcha.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I guess they do since they are sending him to the ME to raise the funds needed....ah, ahem......Speak to other Muslims about what it's like to be an American Muslim.....


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    Did you happen to see the guy(think he was from the State Dept.)? Anyway he was ummming all over the place trying to explain why we were sending this guy to the ME on taxpayers dime. He was trying to say it's nothing unusual, though he failed as far I'm concerned.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Ah, so the State Department runs Islam in America. Gotcha.
    I guess they feel they do....this is the stated mission.

    “He is a distinguished Muslim cleric,” said State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley. “We do have a program whereby, through our Educational and Cultural Affairs Bureau here at the State Department, we send people from Muslim communities here in this country around the world to help people overseas understand our society and the role of religion within our society.”

    snip

    “It is to foster greater understanding and outreach around the world, among… Muslim- majority communities,” said Crowley. “We've done this many, many times, with many leading figures… over the past few years.”

    Confirmed: State Dept. Sending Ground Zero Mosque Imam on Middle East Junket | The Weekly Standard
    so there you have it.


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