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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Ok sorry to break up the poo-flinging for a second guys, but does anyone else think half these guys are just kidding around and aren't serious? I mean, I assume the ultra-mega-cons here talking about the muslim terror are in their 40s,50s etc....someone that old truly cannot be that ignorant and it would have to be an act....I refuse to believe otherwise.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Ok sorry to break up the poo-flinging for a second guys, but does anyone else think half these guys are just kidding around and aren't serious? I mean, I assume the ultra-mega-cons here talking about the muslim terror are in their 40s,50s etc....someone that old truly cannot be that ignorant and it would have to be an act....I refuse to believe otherwise.

    That Old? Bite me Kid! What the hell are you talking about? We have seen this thing unfold while you were obviously getting your diaper soiled. Stick around, you may learn something.


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Ok sorry to break up the poo-flinging for a second guys, but does anyone else think half these guys are just kidding around and aren't serious? I mean, I assume the ultra-mega-cons here talking about the muslim terror are in their 40s,50s etc....someone that old truly cannot be that ignorant and it would have to be an act....I refuse to believe otherwise.
    Again....let me ask you this

    How many arrests can be directly attributed to simple good patriotism by "Muslim Americans"? Who is the public voice of "Muslim Americans" and what has been their line from the start? Have they condemnd the teachings of the madrasas that are indoctrinating the next generation? Are they, as a group, calling for the overhaul of what we all know to be the seedbed of this problem?

    Another thing....I didn't hear Pentacostals, Christians, Protestants, etc, etc saying, "We won't rest until the White House is ****ing destroyed." I believe they are Muslim males, age 17-50, from a known target country.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Again....let me ask you this

    How many arrests can be directly attributed to simple good patriotism by "Muslim Americans"? Who is the public voice of "Muslim Americans" and what has been their line from the start? Have they condemnd the teachings of the madrasas that are indoctrinating the next generation? Are they, as a group, calling for the overhaul of what we all know to be the seedbed of this problem?

    Another thing....I didn't hear Pentacostals, Christians, Protestants, etc, etc saying, "We won't rest until the White House is ****ing destroyed." I believe they are Muslim males, age 17-50, from a known target country.


    I grow tiresome of your fearmongering.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ultimately, there's nothing we can do to FORCE or MAKE Islam become more modernized and more moderated...but we can help by not ostracizing those that are seeking to do that and dealing with the religion realistically and addressing the culture and societal issues that allow people to USE the religion for ill purposes...as Christianity was USED to murder "witches" and "heritics" and destroy scientific evidence before...rather than simply focusing all the hatred on the "wrongness" of the religion in and of itself.
    Again, the US Constitution is not nor was it ever intended to be a suicide pact. The founders could in no way have contemplated the needs of today nor the depth of this evil. They couldn't even begin to fathom the death of 3k at the hands of 19 in half a day.

    Just remember - Laws are written by men, men can change them.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Again, the US Constitution is not nor was it ever intended to be a suicide pact. The founders could in no way have contemplated the needs of today nor the depth of this evil. They couldn't even begin to fathom the death of 3k at the hands of 19 in half a day.
    I always get a good chuckle when I see a conservative argue for a "living" Constitution. Any port in a storm, I guess.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Again....let me ask you this

    How many arrests can be directly attributed to simple good patriotism by "Muslim Americans"? Who is the public voice of "Muslim Americans" and what has been their line from the start? Have they condemnd the teachings of the madrasas that are indoctrinating the next generation? Are they, as a group, calling for the overhaul of what we all know to be the seedbed of this problem?

    Another thing....I didn't hear Pentacostals, Christians, Protestants, etc, etc saying, "We won't rest until the White House is ****ing destroyed." I believe they are Muslim males, age 17-50, from a known target country.
    When did all Muslims have this hive mind that you speak of? Replace Muslim with White and you get Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Louis Farrakahn. Replace Muslim with Black, Hispanic, Asian, Arab and you get Pat Buchanan, Frosty Wooldridge, David Duke, and Don Black. Why should a person a particular group apologize for an act committed by someone of the same said group if said people dont know each other. This is typically collectivist thinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Hmmm....

    The NYPD lost, I believe 23 cops. Who will protect, the mosque from angry protests and possible vandalism?
    Like any citizen protection of your property begins with yourself.

    What about the Ironworkers who cleared the rubble of the WTC? What will, the muslims do if everyone refuses to participate in building this place?
    Considering the unemployment right now, someone will do the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I always get a good chuckle when I see a conservative argue for a "living" Constitution. Any port in a storm, I guess.
    They've always thought it was rather malleable. That's why they're big fans of extending the rights of gays to marry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I grow tiresome of your fearmongering.

    so we should not believe what our enemies say?


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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    I have a deal for you "conservatives" out there who wanna subvert the constitution.

    If you break private property laws and the constitution to stop the mosque from being built...

    Will you let the gays marry?

    A fair trade I think...

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