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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Actually these are the basic tenants of islam.

    Bearing witness that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah
    Observance of Prayer
    Paying Zakat
    Fasting during Ramadhan
    Pilgrimage to the house of Allah.
    And once again, you step off the deep end and drown in your ignorance. You are off by 217 degrees and this is why Islam is a danger to everyone who is not a Muslim. Now and probably forever.

    Everywhere that Islam has spread, they have done it by conquest. Their military expansion stopped at the walls of Vienna in 1699. Your western value Muslim would be considered an apostate by mainstream Islam. To adopt western values requires a rejection of the blatant commands of the Koran, which to Islam is the unalterable word of God. By their own source documents, the ones that lay out their faith, their beliefs and they way they are to act, they are to be at war with EVERYONE who is not a Muslim. The world according to Islam is split in two. The Dar el Islam, and the Dar el Harb. The house of peace and the house of war.

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh yeah....Bring it on Star....I love this, let's see how many stereotypes of liberalism we can discern in one post, shall we?

    You obviously do care about Islam, and offending our enemies, because like any good liberal you think we were responsible for the deaths on 9/11, not 19 Saudi funded, radical Islamists waging war on the United States, and the Western world in the name of Caliphate.
    When did I say this? This is news to me, but thanks for telling me how I think.

    Really? and you base this on their obvious and conspicuous silence? Islam was founded by a murderous, rapist that calls for the view of those not converting to his ideology of hate to be killed. It condones violence, and deception. Nice religion.
    I'm not defending Islam as a religion, I don't follow it, I'm a Christian, but to equate every muslim as a terrorist is ignorant, and dishonest. I'm defending the Constitution, and the peaceful muslims that live in America doing no harm to anyone.

    Oh, and about the video, I couldn't watch it, because my internet sucks, but lets just say that there were some muslims celebrating. There are always going to be a-holes that believe that radical nonsense. But the majority of Muslims didn't celebrate, I should of made that distinction. But again to equate a small group of a-holes to the majority isn't logical. It's like saying that all Christians celebrate when an abortion clinic is bombed, because a few a-holes do.


    Irrational fear? Discrimination? As far as I know CAIR is still allowed here in America isn't it? Even though they are an un-indicted co conspirator of the Muslim Brotherhood. Detroit blasts calls to prayer 5 times a day do they not? No one in mass has rose up with violence en mass against American Muslims have they?

    Congradulations, you have hit at least 5 of the liberal mantras, skewed, and wrong as they may be. A true cliche.


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    The irrational fear, and discrimination I'm talking about is people like you, who want to piss on the constitution because you equate a small group of radicals with a whole group of people. Also it reaches to many non muslims who just happen to look middle eastern, like the Sikhs who were murdered because of their look, and the way there religion has them dress, after 9/11.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    I'm glad the mosque won the vote, and no one has the right to prevent them from building it. I find it hypocritical that many conservatives oppose building the mosque and wish for state intervention when it comes to property rights and religious freedom
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Marist: Majority Opposes Ground Zero Mosque, Blooomberg Approval at 5-Year*Low - Real Clear Politics – TIME.com

    this attempt to improve west-muslim relations kinda seems to be backfiring

    50 percent of DEMS in NEW YORK oppose the mosque

    buncha constitution shredders

    by all means, mr faisal, build your mosque, it's your right

    the sensibilities of those with whom you're trying to improve relations really don't signify

    it's all about property rights

    LOL!

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Instead of picking out a part of what I posted to feign outrage at Dan, why don't you read, and view the entire thing. Do you even know why this Imam wanted to name this offensive mosque "Cordoba House"? Do you even know the significance?

    Ignorance will be no excuse.


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    I agree. As such, I recommend the following article:

    Got Medieval: Professor Newt's Distorted History Lesson
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    For the same reason, I think there can be a reasonable restriction on freedom of religion. If you worship Quetzelcoatl, you aren't going to be allowed to cut out someone's heart for a sacrifice. A Kali worshipper can't strangle a sacrifical victim and the druids can't burn a man in a basket at Samhain.

    For the same reason, I think that sooner or later, we must prohibit Islam in this country.
    By your own logic (see above), the appropriate thing to do is simply prohibit practices which violate the persons, property and rights of others -- not ban the religion as a whole.

    There isn't a single interpretation of the First Amendment which has stood the test of time (or the courts) that would support such a ban.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    1st amendment?!!! 1st amendment?!!! What in the world makes you think that radical Islam gives two wits about what our Bill of Rights says, other than to use dupes in this country to use them against us?
    That's the thing about being a society of law -- it doesn't matter if the other guys ignore the law or not, we still have to obey it.
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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am pointing out that radical Islam could care less about our piece of paper and declarations of rights when it comes to dominating the western culture and destroying it in the name of Allah.
    Then it appears they share that in common with you due to your wanton desire to disregard and degrade said "piece of paper".

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    "to improve west-muslim relations..."

    LOL!

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    Re: Ground zero mosque wins key vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Why don't you try reading the New Testament and then judge Christianity?
    I taught it for 16 years.

    If however the practice involves something like killing an unbeliever, stoning a woman to death for sitting in a car with a man who is not her husband or relative, etc., then EVERY other Christian denomination is going to stand up and say that ISN'T in the Bible and it ISN'T Christian.
    If Islamists do these things, they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    For the record, the Bible advises that parents abuse/beat their children. Should we start prosecuting people for that belief?

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