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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Just because a fighting force doesn't rate protections under the Geneva Convention, doesn't make them any less of a military force. Anytime a force uses interlocking fields of fire, explosives, anti-armor ambushes, etc. to fight, then they are using military tactics and that makes them a military force.
    Then 18th Street and Gangster Disciples are an army.

    Are you a tactical expert or are you just pulling this shi'ite opinion out your ass?

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    What is the upside of being there? Pride? Sorry, but that does not cut it for me, especially every time I see on the news someone coming home in a casket. Bring our guys home, where they are supposed to be.
    The upside of being there, is that we don't have to go back and start all over from scratch.

    You don't like seeing people come home in caskets? If we have to go back in ten years, to re-learn how to fight the enemy all over again, you'll see even more young Americans coming home in caskets.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Then 18th Street and Gangster Disciples are an army.

    Are you a tactical expert or are you just pulling this shi'ite opinion out your ass?
    Ok, so explain to us whose tactical orginization they used to make themselves into an army.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Or, rehash Kuwait, circa 1991...bomb the fuck out of them. Worked better than invasion.
    I don't disagree, but all you Lefties would go ape **** if we did that. But, even in Desert Storm, we had to attack the enemy and suffered 1,200 casualties.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, so explain to us whose tactical orginization they used to make themselves into an army.
    YOu don't believe that street gangs have organizations, leadership, hierarchy, rules, and structure? I don't think you're equipped for this discussion.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The upside of being there, is that we don't have to go back and start all over from scratch.

    You don't like seeing people come home in caskets? If we have to go back in ten years, to re-learn how to fight the enemy all over again, you'll see even more young Americans coming home in caskets.
    So do the job right the first time type of thing. I guess that is a little more legit, however, given that we have been fighting there for like 8 years I am not that convinced in such an argument.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't disagree, but all you Lefties would go ape **** if we did that. But, even in Desert Storm, we had to attack the enemy and suffered 1,200 casualties.
    You consider me a lefty? LMFAO!

    I am all in favor of bombing the **** out of bad guys.

    And, as usual, your numbers are way off:

    The DoD reports that U.S. forces suffered 148 battle-related deaths (35 to friendly fire), with one pilot listed as MIA (his remains were found and identified in August 2009). A further 145 Americans died in non-combat accidents.[78]
    That adds up to 253. I don't know where you pulled the 1200 figure, likely out from between your buttocks, as per your usual m.o.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There is an assumption on your part that our police actions prevented these things. I don't think you can prove this. Thus, your point is moot.



    Real history suggests that Vietnam worked?



    Welcome to training exercises, 101. Our guys hadn't fought since vietnam when we went into Kuwait in 1991, and they managed.
    We wound up with 1,200 casualties, inflicted by a two-bit army. It's a good thing we weren't up against a real fighting force.

    All the training in the world can never substitute the experience that soldier gain in actual combat.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You consider me a lefty? LMFAO!

    I am all in favor of bombing the **** out of bad guys.

    And, as usual, your numbers are way off:



    That adds up to 253. I don't know where you pulled the 1200 figure, likely out from between your buttocks, as per your usual m.o.
    Did I say, "deaths", or did I say, "casualties"? You do know the difference?
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We wound up with 1,200 casualties, inflicted by a two-bit army.
    Evidence? Gulf War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The DoD reports that U.S. forces suffered 148 battle-related deaths (35 to friendly fire), with one pilot listed as MIA (his remains were found and identified in August 2009).
    Your numbers aren't even close.

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