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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    I think the Cold War very accurately describes the specific tension between the US and the USSR. If there were such a thing as the War on Communism, it would include more than the Cold war but things like Vietnam, Korea, etc. And that propaganda war didn't go so well either.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    This is a very foolish and unwise decision on Obama's part. We need to keep the amount of troops there in Iraq until the area is secure. We can't pull out and leave a small number of troops in Iraq only to watch their government fall into the hands of terrorists. There will be many more deaths and terror attacks once wee leave. His decision is purely political and not based on what is best for the Iraqi people or America's mission that we sought out to do.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is a very foolish and unwise decision on Obama's part. We need to keep the amount of troops there in Iraq until the area is secure. We can't pull out and leave a small number of troops in Iraq only to watch their government fall into the hands of terrorists. There will be many more deaths and terror attacks once wee leave. His decision is purely political and not based on what is best for the Iraqi people or America's mission that we sought out to do.
    50,000 troops isn't sufficient for the job of backing up the Iraqis in taking care of their country?

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Oh god, he's nothing of the sort. FDR was one of the worst things to happen to this country and Obama is not even close to that. And all this **** about the WOT..."infantile stages"? We've been at it for a long time now. It's not in the "infantile" stage, it's in the "incompetent" stage. Has been from the beginning. We're not doing anything but feeding right into the terrorist propaganda machine. If we're not going to do anything, there's no point wasting our lives and our money on their problem. **** those assholes, let them figure it out for themselves. I'll take my chance with the terrorists, they're mostly incompetent as well. They got lucky with an attack and now we're all freaking out like they're god damned Nazi Germany. They ain't that good.
    Nice rant. I agree. Great job in letting the wind out of the hyperbole.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    50,000 troops isn't sufficient for the job of backing up the Iraqis in taking care of their country?
    I'm not sure, I would like to know the general's opinion. 50,000 troops mean nothing if they aren't allowed to preform combat missions and be on the offensive against terrorists. This isn't about military strategy or what's best in the war, it's purely political. Obama is a horrible military leader and will probably take credit for the "success" of the Iraq war, when the true credit goes to those who supported the surge and the troops themselves.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    OK, it is now up to the Iraqis to determine their own future. We will still have about 50,000 troops there until the end of the year, but the writing is now on the wall. The end of this huge blunder known as the Iraq War is in sight, and now it is time to correct another mistake, namely not finishing the job we had to do when we were attacked on 9/11. This, of course, is Afghanistan.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    First off, how does anyone know what will happen when we leave? Secondly, why the **** is it our responsibility? Their land, their sovereignty, their government; their decision. Let them do it for themselves. We can't run around "bringing democracy" to people; they've got to want it. Country fall into the hands of terrorists, whatever. And even if they did, have you seen Iraq lately? They can be in charge of a ruined country all they want. If we couldn't secure the area in the amount of time we've been there, then it ain't happening. Sorry to burst all y'alls bubble. Ain't happening, so there is no longer any point to wasting American lives and money on it. I mean, 9.11 got ~3000 of us, and we've spent well more than 3,000 more lives fighting this damned war. We essentially doubled our own losses and have accomplished nothing. If you think this is a wise strategy, I'd say you're a crazy man. There's no end in sight, no competent plan to make one and get there. It's all FUBARed. Cut our losses and get out, the area sucks ass anyway.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    First off, how does anyone know what will happen when we leave? Secondly, why the **** is it our responsibility? Their land, their sovereignty, their government; their decision. Let them do it for themselves. We can't run around "bringing democracy" to people; they've got to want it. Country fall into the hands of terrorists, whatever. And even if they did, have you seen Iraq lately? They can be in charge of a ruined country all they want. If we couldn't secure the area in the amount of time we've been there, then it ain't happening. Sorry to burst all y'alls bubble. Ain't happening, so there is no longer any point to wasting American lives and money on it. I mean, 9.11 got ~3000 of us, and we've spent well more than 3,000 more lives fighting this damned war. We essentially doubled our own losses and have accomplished nothing. If you think this is a wise strategy, I'd say you're a crazy man. There's no end in sight, no competent plan to make one and get there. It's all FUBARed. Cut our losses and get out, the area sucks ass anyway.
    They could sell the oil to buy a nuke....whoopeee.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    This is great news... well, it's only news because we're so used to being lied to by politicians. If this all goes according to what we're told, I think people on both sides of the aisle should give Obama a lot of credit for being open and honest with the American people regarding the war in Iraq. The cost in lives and taxpayer dollars from this war is unforgivable and our President's actions are a good reminder of why I'm happy that McCain wasn't elected. I have a few friends that I can't wait to see come home permanently. I have a few friends in Afghanistan, too... that's a different story.
    Actually, it was Bush who signed the treaty that has us pulling out at the end of the year. Sorry, but you can't rewrite history and give Obama the credit for this.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They could sell the oil to buy a nuke....whoopeee.
    Who are they going to sell oil to? Where are they gonna get a nuke from? There's a lot we can do through sanctions if need be. I mean, I don't know if we really want to break out the "Iraq has WMD" so soon again.
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