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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    That's not quite the same as what Apdst is claiming, is it?



    No it's not. I was simply correcting the record. We executed that war, nearly flawlessly.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    No, the solution would have been to bomb the **** out of them, again, from a distance, and never actually invade. We knew where to bomb, it was the places that Hussein wasn't allowing the weapons inspectors to inspect, and his palaces. THE END.
    You can't win a war from the air. At some point, you have to put grunts on the ground to engage the enemy.

    Jesus Christ. This war is not winnable, because it isn't a militarily feasible objective.

    How would you define "winning" in this situation, Apdst? PLease give me the conditions that would need to be met in order to "win."
    The same thing that defines winning in any other war for the past several thousand years of recorded history: the enemy suffer's such a defeat that he ceases all combat action. War aren't necessarily won, because two opposing sides sit down and sign a piece of paper.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    Oh, trust me. I'll be watching to make sure you do.
    I know you will, it's all you have to do.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    No it's not. I was simply correcting the record. We executed that war, nearly flawlessly.
    Hear, hear. We totally did. That's because we had HH on the ground.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    Hear, hear. We totally did. That's because we had HH on the ground.



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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    The same thing that defines winning in any other war for the past several thousand years of recorded history: the enemy suffer's such a defeat that he ceases all combat action. War aren't necessarily won, because two opposing sides sit down and sign a piece of paper.
    The problem is identifying the enemy in Iraq. Unfortunately, the enemy hides amongst the Iraqi people. He isn't a clearcut military enemy. That's why this is much more like crime problems than a military operation, and why we've had limited success over the past 8 years.

    Winning, in this instance, will require literally changing the culture of Iraq. I don't believe that's possible, and it's certainly impossible for us to do.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    The problem is identifying the enemy in Iraq. Unfortunately, the enemy hides amongst the Iraqi people. He isn't a clearcut military enemy. That's why this is much more like crime problems than a military operation, and why we've had limited success over the past 8 years.

    Winning, in this instance, will require literally changing the culture of Iraq. I don't believe that's possible, and it's certainly impossible for us to do.
    Winning against Japan in WW2 required changing their culture. We did a fine job on that.
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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

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    Winning against Japan in WW2 required changing their culture. We did a fine job on that.
    I don't even know why I bother.

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    Re: US combat mission in Iraq to end on schedule Aug 31: Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Winning against Japan in WW2 required changing their culture. We did a fine job on that.
    How does using nuclear bombs change their culture?

    The bombs scared the living crap out of the Japanese(along with completely destroying two cities), they realized they were out gunned, and surrendered. It was nothing about changing their culture.
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