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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Your post is stupid. The fact of the matter is that a destabilized Mexico on our southern border and narco trafficantes pose a threat to our national security. That should be neither overstated---nor hyperbolically understated.
    Actually, your post doesn't really reflect a lot of intelligence either but I digress. I do not argue that our pourous borders don't need mending.

    I am merely, in a typical Captain America humorous manner, trying to point out how political all this is. The GOP wants to lay the blame at Obama's feet. However, it was carefully omitted that Obama, for what it's worth, has done more to control the problem than either Bush 1 or 2 or Clinton (or even Ronnie Reagan who just said to hell with it and gave them amnesty.) That being said, he still isn't doing enough.

    Also omitted are the stats that show major crime, at almost every level, is the lowest in AZ than it has been in years and years (and continues to decline.) Which makes one have to ask, if it's such a big deal now, why wasn't it a big deal when the crime stats were much worse back, say, when Bush was in office?

    What it is, is another wedge issue used to distract and persuade the simple minded voter. Does that mean our borders don't need attention? Certainly not. They need LOT'S of attention. But it's about 30% less the problem it was 10 years ago and the crime numbers still fall year after year.

    I want our borders as secure as the next guy. But I'm not a mushbrain that is buying into the GOP propaganda "The messkin's are coming! The messkins are coming!" False fear does not work on me.
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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I am merely, in a typical Captain America humorous manner, trying to point out how political all this is.
    Well, you did a piss poor job of that.

    The GOP wants to lay the blame at Obama's feet. However, it was carefully omitted that Obama, for what it's worth, has done more to control the problem than either Bush 1 or 2 or Clinton (or even Ronnie Reagan who just said to hell with it and gave them amnesty.) That being said, he still isn't doing enough.
    Maybe you should have gone with this paragraph, instead. It's less retarded.

    I'm not a mushbrain that is buying into the GOP propaganda "The messkin's are coming! The messkins are coming!" False fear does not work on me.
    False fear doesn't work on me either. But putting one's head in a hole in the ground doesn't help to equip you to accurately respond to an identified problem. And, no one can really deny that the cartels have the potential to massively impact America's national security.

    Your post is a false dichotomy, and even more ridiculous than the position you're trying to counter. It's sad you don't realize that.

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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

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    I Heart This Post.
    I'm sure you do Jallman. I'm sure you do.

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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Well, you did a piss poor job of that.



    Maybe you should have gone with this paragraph, instead. It's less retarded.



    False fear doesn't work on me either. But putting one's head in a hole in the ground doesn't help to equip you to accurately respond to an identified problem. And, no one can really deny that the cartels have the potential to massively impact America's national security.

    Your post is a false dichotomy, and even more ridiculous than the position you're trying to counter. It's sad you don't realize that.
    Your are insignificant to me so believe what you want to believe. Disagree if you must. Be a jerk about it too, if you must. Says more about you than it does about me.

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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Your are insignificant to me so believe what you want to believe. Disagree if you must. Be a jerk about it too, if you must. Says more about you than it does about me.
    Wow. That was easier and more enjoyable than I anticipated.

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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I know. We have a mutual hatred of stupidity.
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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Back to the topic

    Can the new state legislation be considered a (catalyst) cause in these developments? Those who play hardball with criminals have to be prepared to get dirty. I'm not advocating softball either. Let's just say it would be wise not to play ball at all (and not for the sake of seeking euphoria either). Who's money do they have? And where did your children get it from Somebody already stated "America likes its drugs" to some degree?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219
    it would be wise not to play ball at all
    Blasphemy! The only way to prevent the moles from popping their heads out is to keep on feeding quarters into the drug cartel whack-a-mole machine!

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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

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    Uhh..she did. The fact that you can't ****ing read isn't anyone's problem but yours.
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    Re: Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff's Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    A huge part of this illegal immigration law in AZ is designed to stop the massive amounts of drug trafficking that is being ignored from coming across their borders.
    Yeah, and it's not going to work either. Only legalization of recreational drugs is going to stop drug trafficking. Legalization of recreational drugs will also put a stop to illegal immigration since it will provide a source of revenue to Latin America so they can build up their own domestic economy.

    Tough illegal immigration laws will never reduce the power of drug cartels. Only legalization of recreational drugs will, and will reduce illegal immigration as well.

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