Page 8 of 13 FirstFirst ... 678910 ... LastLast
Results 71 to 80 of 124

Thread: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

  1. #71
    Sage
    mike2810's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    arizona
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:02 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    15,011

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    1. This is obviously a ridiculous case that will be thrown out. Prisoners do this kind of thing all the time, since they've got nothing to lose and nothing else to do while they're sitting there. 99.99% of all these cases die because they're frivolous. They grab the public attention though because of the fact that they are outrageous and then people do like the OP did and start blaming lawyers even though no lawyer is involved.

    2. That doesn't mean that overwhelming force is allowable when you stop a thief. While the facts in this case do not seem to be outrageous (especially since the guy is asking for "mental damage" awards -- aw, the poor thief), it is not hard to imagine a situation where someone uses too much force. You have the right to use it to apprehend someone; you don't have the right to beat the crap out of them once they are subdued.

    3. The idea that there should be an extra punishment for exercising his Constitutional rights is well, frankly unAmerican.
    I agee with 1 and 2. Yes, maybe I went over board saying tack on some extra time for filing a suit. The point I have is while you have a right to sue, there are some cases that are a waiste of time and money. Seems like for this case we are the United States of Litigation.
    "I can explain it to you but, I can't understand it for you"

  2. #72
    Sage
    lizzie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    between two worlds
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,581

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    2. you don't have the right to beat the crap out of them once they are subdued.
    Frankly, some criminals must have the crap beat out of them before they are subdued. Have you ever worked the streets as a cop or paramedic? I'm guessing no.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
    -C G Jung

  3. #73
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:20 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,363

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    1. This is obviously a ridiculous case that will be thrown out. Prisoners do this kind of thing all the time, since they've got nothing to lose and nothing else to do while they're sitting there. 99.99% of all these cases die because they're frivolous. They grab the public attention though because of the fact that they are outrageous and then people do like the OP did and start blaming lawyers even though no lawyer is involved.

    2. That doesn't mean that overwhelming force is allowable when you stop a thief. While the facts in this case do not seem to be outrageous (especially since the guy is asking for "mental damage" awards -- aw, the poor thief), it is not hard to imagine a situation where someone uses too much force. You have the right to use it to apprehend someone; you don't have the right to beat the crap out of them once they are subdued.

    3. The idea that there should be an extra punishment for exercising his Constitutional rights is well, frankly unAmerican.
    Perhaps not, but we do have the right to beat the crap out of them before they're subdued. I think in a situation like that, "subdued", can be all about perspective.

    My perspective would be that he's not subdued until I've beat him so bad that he can't get up anymore; at which point--of course--I'll stop beating the crap out of him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  4. #74
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Last Seen
    12-26-10 @ 06:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,083

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    OMFG are you serious?

    Your accusing me of not knowing how to read when you jump into a thread about citizens and start accusing the cops of abuse and then follow it up by going COMPLETELY off topic about the video camera stupidity in your attempt to deamonize the police furthur.....

    Yet you accuse ME of not being able to read? Out-****ing-standing! I am totally blown away!
    I didn't accuse the cops of anything. I said if they are doing no wrong, they should have nothing to hide and there should be no fear of a court case. How can you not see the clear distinction between one and the other? Stop foaming at the mouth and take the time to read what people say before you go off on them.

    Saying that convicts should have no right to have court cases about police brutally is equally as extreme as saying police are always abusing their authority and never doing their jobs. The rights of the individual are paramount, and if the people who arrested the guy in this case did so within the proper letter of the law then they have nothing to worry about.

    Now stop having a heart attack over something I never even said, and calm the **** down please.

  5. #75
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,067

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    They grab the public attention though because of the fact that they are outrageous and then people do like the OP did and start blaming lawyers even though no lawyer is involved.
    Regardless of whether or not he has a lawyer or he is representing himself(the article didn't say which) it is still the fault of greedy ambulance chasers what these bull **** lawsuits happen. Its because of them why people think that just because some retard ignored common sense by knowingly put a cup of hot liquid in between her legs and burned herself as a result of her own stupidity that that they have a chance with their fraudulent lawsuits. This is why a jar a of peanut butter has warning this contains peanuts" or why something with a razor blade might have the warning "caution sharp".
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  6. #76
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Ft. Campbell, KY
    Last Seen
    12-31-14 @ 08:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    12,177

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Reading the article there's no where near enough information to make a judgment, if the man was captured while running via tackle from a police officer or a private citizen, I think any reasonable person/judge would not see any excess in that. However if the man was obviously captured, meaning there was no longer any threat of him acting violently or running, than any further injury caused to this person is grounds in my opinion for this lawsuit. Now I don't know if the injuries would be 500,000 dollars worth or whatever else, I'm just saying its grounds to look at it a little more.

    Consider this: If any of us were walking down the street and observed three men beating a man on the ground, either restrained or otherwise incapable of self-defense, what would we do? Well odds are we'd do nothing as most people wouldn't, but assuming we did attempt to intervene we'd probably do so on behalf of the man on the ground. If we happened to find out the reason was because he stole a bicycle, would any of us honestly let this continue? I honestly believe that anyone watching three men beat a defenseless man for whatever reason, would have a pretty sick feeling in their stomach, because we know its wrong.

    But thats just my general opinion and again no one hear knows enough details to make a truly fair opinion, there's too much speculation here as to what might have happened.

  7. #77
    Guru
    JohnWOlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Kentucky
    Last Seen
    01-17-17 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,594

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    How can this guy even get around without being weighed down by his giant balls?

  8. #78
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It'll be a sad day in our nation, if the judge doesn't laugh this asshole right out of the courtroom.
    If the man was brutalized, he deserves the money. If he were a republican, you would be on his side.

  9. #79
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I believe that when someone engages in a felony against others, he should be debarred from suing the victims in civil court.
    I don't. If has a grievance, he should be heard. If it's valid, he should be allowed to collect.

  10. #80
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    10-05-17 @ 01:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,336

    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    @ Orion -- Re juries? You might be interested to read this:


    Re D.A.'s? You might be interested in this:


    In the United States, people making citizen arrests are subject to "strict liability" -- a legal doctrine in which someone is held personally responsible for the damages caused by their actions, regardless of their intentions or personal fault. Read more: What are Citizen's Arrest Requirements? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6319479_cit...#ixzz0vURQkUrI

    Making a citizen's arrest is not for sissies.
    Ummm... I think it has alot to do with the fact that it was an hour later.....

    MUCH different than what I was speaking of....
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

Page 8 of 13 FirstFirst ... 678910 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •