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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I follow the law too. The law states that if some asshole crosses my threshold, with the intent to steal my property, or harm my family, I'm well within my rights to kill that cocksucker.

    You keep following the law, my friend, because that's exactly what the criminal scumbags want you to do.
    Nope. The law you reference, which is called the "Make my Day" law; is no longer completely intact. You may kill to protect yourself or your family; however, you MAY NOT kill to protect property.

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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Nope. The law you reference, which is called the "Make my Day" law; is no longer completely intact. You may kill to protect yourself or your family; however, you MAY NOT kill to protect property.
    a true statement of the law. However, if someone breaks into an occupied home it is presumed they intend to do the occupants bodily harm. if they are coming in-kill them. If they are running away with your property you best not



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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Nope. The law you reference, which is called the "Make my Day" law; is no longer completely intact. You may kill to protect yourself or your family; however, you MAY NOT kill to protect property.
    Well, here in Louisiana, it's called the, "Shoot the Burgler Bill", and yes, I can waste his ass, as long as he's inside the door of my home.

    Not only can I blow a mother****er away when he enters my home, I can blow his as away when he tries to force his way into my vehicle.

    In these parts, I have the law on my side and firearms at the ready. Unlike sucky-ass-Libbo land, burglers 'round here know that there is a better than average chance of getting a cap busted in their ass, so they don't pull stupid **** like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, here in Louisiana, it's called the, "Shoot the Burgler Bill", and yes, I can waste his ass, as long as he's inside the door of my home.

    Not only can I blow a mother****er away when he enters my home, I can blow his as away when he tries to force his way into my vehicle.

    In these parts, I have the law on my side and firearms at the ready. Unlike sucky-ass-Libbo land, burglers 'round here know that there is a better than average chance of getting a cap busted in their ass, so they don't pull stupid **** like that.
    Is that another name for the "Castle Law?" I think so. I have lots of family in Kentucky. Shotguns at the front and back doors 'cause they live in the boonies...QUITE isolated, actually. They travel with their guns on the front seat of their cars. It's a different world. But never have I heard one of them embrace their right to shoot someone with your obvious emotional zeal. And never have they implied that I, by virtue of NOT having guns at MY door, am somehow wimpy.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're probably one of those people that have been victimized your whole life, because you didn't have the nerve to do anything about it. It's people like you that do more to encourage criminals than to discourage them.

    Why the concept of protecting your property and your family, no matter what, is so hard to understand is beyond me.
    Most states have specific ways/means that one can make a citizen's arrest....which, remember, is what this thread is about. Protecting property is a far different thing than protecting ones' self or family, right? In most states, citizens cannot make an arrest unless a felony is committed. In some, a citizen's arrest can only be made if the thief is "in a store trying to steal merchandise."

    Also, In the United States, people making citizen arrests are subject to "strict liability" -- a legal doctrine in which someone is held personally responsible for the damages or injuries caused by their actions, regardless of their intentions or personal fault. (The link to substantiate this is posted by me earlier in this thread.) You cannot beat the livin' crap out of someone unless you are defending yourself. You can't just blow somebody away because they're stealing your bicycle. Well, you can, but...

    In regards this thread, this guy is in trouble no matter what. Reason being that, unless the case is summarily dismissed by the judge, he will have to mount a defense. That spells $5K or even more. So, win or lose, he loses. Should he have to mount a defense?? As long as we live in the USA, the answer is, "Yes, unless the judge finds right out of the box that the suit is groundless." Just because a guy steals a bike and breaks a car window doesn't mean he can suffer permanent injury with no recourse...especially when the injury is done by a private citizen. (Whether he did suffer permanent injury or not will be his responsibility to prove.) This guy is acting as his own attorney. Judges are going to be extremely lenient with him. It's the due process on which our country was founded.

    Further, I'd also say that anyone who accosts a guy who's naked in the street over a freakin' bicycle is nutz. 'Cause so is the guy who's naked. That's why phones have 911 on them.
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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Wow, the ****er was subdued in a shoulder hold. oh my holy hell, how abused he was.

    Maybe he shouldn't have broken windows out of a car and stolen a ****ing bike.

    A judge with any goddamn sense will toss this out.

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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Wow, the ****er was subdued in a shoulder hold. oh my holy hell, how abused he was.

    Maybe he shouldn't have broken windows out of a car and stolen a ****ing bike.

    A judge with any goddamn sense will toss this out.
    If that's what happened, I'm sure the judge WILL toss it out. I hope so, for the guy's sake. I'd hate to be paying an attorney $250 an hour to go to trial.
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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    If the man was brutalized, he deserves the money. If he were a republican, you would be on his side.
    How do you know he's not a republican? How would anyone?

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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Is that another name for the "Castle Law?" I think so. I have lots of family in Kentucky. Shotguns at the front and back doors 'cause they live in the boonies...QUITE isolated, actually. They travel with their guns on the front seat of their cars. It's a different world. But never have I heard one of them embrace their right to shoot someone with your obvious emotional zeal. And never have they implied that I, by virtue of NOT having guns at MY door, am somehow wimpy.
    I only opine in such a passionate manner, because for some reason, a couple of posters suggest I'm some sort of a criminal, simply because I choose to excercise my right to use deadly force to protect my family and my property. You did read those posts. Yes?

    If you choose not to protect your family and property in the same manner, then that's your business and I'm not going to insult you for making that decision. However, someone shouldn't insult me and accuse me of criminal activity for doing the opposite.

    If you expect me to lose any sleep because this goof-ball thinks he got ruffed up a little too much; it ain't gonna happen. He broke the law, he got caught, he got his ass kicked a little. I'm not having a problem with him getting his ass kicked. IMO, it needs to happen more often. In a just world, a judge would laugh this asshole right out of the courtroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I only opine in such a passionate manner, because for some reason, a couple of posters suggest I'm some sort of a criminal, simply because I choose to excercise my right to use deadly force to protect my family and my property. You did read those posts. Yes?

    If you choose not to protect your family and property in the same manner, then that's your business and I'm not going to insult you for making that decision. However, someone shouldn't insult me and accuse me of criminal activity for doing the opposite.

    If you expect me to lose any sleep because this goof-ball thinks he got ruffed up a little too much; it ain't gonna happen. He broke the law, he got caught, he got his ass kicked a little. I'm not having a problem with him getting his ass kicked. IMO, it needs to happen more often. In a just world, a judge would laugh this asshole right out of the courtroom.
    I pretty much agree with your post, Apdst. I just think it's important that people realize that making a citizen's arrest isn't a cakewalk. It can have, shall we say, unintended consequences.
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    Re: Burglar sues men who captured him, claims rough citizens arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I pretty much agree with your post, Apdst. I just think it's important that people realize that making a citizen's arrest isn't a cakewalk. It can have, shall we say, unintended consequences.
    That's why I believe that Joe Horn approach to a citizen's arrest of the way to go.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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