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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Excerpted with my emphasis from “Anthony Weiner rant reveals why nobody likes Congress” By Scott Bland, Contributor, “the vote blog,” The Christian Science Monitor, July 30, 2010
    Make no mistake, the Zadroga Act is very popular on both sides of the aisle: It has 115 co-sponsors in the House, including 15 Republicans. The bill would set aside money to pay the health-care costs for first responders to the 9/11 attacks in New York City, many of whom deal with respiratory issues caused by the dust and debris that day.

    Yet on Thursday, only 12 Republicans voted for the bill, and it failed.

    Why?

    Politics.
    Republicans refused to support the bill blaming the procedure for passage, not the bill itself.

    You can try and blame Democrats for using a procedure that prevented Republicans from adding a poison pill to the bill; but, that begs the question why were Republicans trying to add a poison pill to a popular bill in the first place?

    Politics.

    Republicans were playing politics with a popular bill that provided health care to 9-11 first responders.

    I don't see Democrats being to blame for Republican antics. In fact, I see only Republicans to blame for once again harming American interests to serve their own selfish political ambitions.

    Thank you, Congressman Wiener for drawing Americans' attention to the perversity of Republican political tactics on display these days in Washington, D.C.
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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, your position is that every person who was a 9/11 responder was a city employee who is eligible to use health insurance provided by the city of new york
    just wanting to clarify that so i can point out where that may not always be the circumstance, such that there are those who are without adequte health coverage, who need assistance taking care of the health problems caused by the 9/11 rescue efforts
    And just to clarify what your position seems to be: Of that select group of first responders who may not now have sufficient coverage (nine years after the tragedy), you think that seven thousand million dollars sounds like a reasonable amount to cover the shortfall, correct??

    And you are comfortable with what appears to be a relatively vague bill and zero discussion in congress to weigh the dollar amounts and the value of the legislation. Please straighten me out where i got any of that wrong....

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    The Democrats claim that the bill will help 9/11 people. They make that claim in hopes that it gives them immunity to any criticism. They spin and try to paint Republicans as the "party of hating people" because they didn't support Democrats. Democrats also claimed that the stimulus would not allow unemployment from rising above 8%. They called Republicans evil people because they asked about funding in regards to extending unemployment benefits. The Democrats write a bill, claim it does "x" wonderful thing, and anyone who opposes it hates "x" people and is a wretched person. Don't buy into their deception.
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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    You can try and blame Democrats for using a procedure that prevented Republicans from adding a poison pill to the bill; but, that begs the question why were Republicans trying to add a poison pill to a popular bill in the first place?
    Both sides are playing politics.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Both sides are playing politics.
    You can keep on repeating that but it doesn't answer the question why Republicans were attempting to attach a poison pill to a bill popular on both sides of the aisle. Try to blame Democrats all you want, but it was Republicans who derailed this effort to aid 9-11 first responders.
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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    You can keep on repeating that but it doesn't answer the question why Republicans were attempting to attach a poison pill to a bill popular on both sides of the aisle. Try to blame Democrats all you want, but it was Republicans who derailed this effort to aid 9-11 first responders.
    Me thinks you should study who really is putting poison into bills... Or more like the bills themselves are parasites to the federal budget.
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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    You can keep on repeating that but it doesn't answer the question why Republicans were attempting to attach a poison pill to a bill popular on both sides of the aisle. Try to blame Democrats all you want, but it was Republicans who derailed this effort to aid 9-11 first responders.
    And the children, boy those poor kids, they are not getting anything. What about the kids, lets do it for the kids. Come on, I think you have made enough money, its for the first reponders, gees you heartless ba***ds

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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The Democrats are, for their part, looking for legislative achievements that they can take back to their constituents.

    The Republicans are, for their part, trying to deny them any such achievements.

    What interests me a lot more is this question: What does this legislation even do, and is it even necessary? The 9/11 responders have been 9/11 responders for, oh, almost 9 years now -- so why now?
    You might be interested that Rep. Peter King is one of bills sponsors and voted for it. Anyway here is the skinny on the bill:
    H.R. 847 otherwise known as the “James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act”, and even better known as the “James Zadroga Act” was introduced in February of 2009. It was formulated and introduced in the current session of Congress by Congresswoman Carolyn B. Maloney, representative of the 14th District of New York (Manhattan and Queens) along with Representatives Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), Peter King (R-NY) and Michael McMahon. The Senate companion bill (S. 1334) was introduced on July 24, 2009 by Senators Gillibrand, Schumer, Lautenberg, and Menendez; this was the first time comprehensive 9/11 health legislation had been introduced in the Senate. It is best to first answer the question “what is the problem?” in order to understand H.R. 847. So, what is the problem? The problem delves deeper than just the respiratory illnesses that are reportedly affecting thousand of 9/11 rescue and recovery workers. Thousands of 9/11 responders exposed to an amount of toxins at Ground Zero - that has never been seen before – are now very sick and in need of help. Those that are sick include previously blogged about New York firefighters and police officers, EMTs, construction workers, clean-up workers, residents, and area workers, among many others. Their reported illnesses are far ranging as they include respiratory and gastrointestinal system conditions such as asthma, interstitial lung disease, the chronic “WTC” cough, leukemia, cancers, sarcoma, lymphoma, and mental health conditions such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). At the point that H.R. 847 was formulated and introduced, it was reported that more than 13,000 WTC responders are deceased or sick and receiving treatment. It has also been reported that over 40,000 responders are currently in medical monitoring at facilities like Mount Sinai’s World Trade Center Medical Monitoring and Treatment Program, which officially loses all funding in June 2010, this summer. Additionally, it has been reported that 71,000 individuals are enrolled in the WTC health registry, indicating that they were exposed to toxins. Congresswoman Maloney also presents the problem that many of those who have suffered the reported WTC-related illnesses have also suffered economic losses, thus she (and the bill) believes that they “need and deserve compensation”.



    For those who refer to 9/11 as a “New York Problem” (trust me, I had NO idea but it is far more prevalent that I could have imagined. Honestly, it’s quite scary) at least 10,000 people came from around the country to help in the aftermath of the attacks. They hail from every state in the Union and nearly every Congressional District. Many of them are reportedly sick and very concerned about their health.



    Now that I have addressed the problem at length, let’s try to answer the question, “How does the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act address the problem?” The Act would provide medical monitoring and treatment to WTC responders and community members who were exposed to the toxins at Ground Zero. The act would also build upon the existing monitory and treatment program. One such example would be the current program at the WTC Center of Mount Sinai. The Act would also reopen the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund (VCF) to provide compensation for economic losses and harm as an alternative to the current litigation system. Finally the Act would provide liability protection for the WTC Contractors and the City of New York who are reportedly being sued by over 10,000 people who claim to be sick from the Ground Zero conditions and elements.
    What is H.R. 847, The James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act? - OnEarth Magazine

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    If you are curious here is the text of the bill.

    Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

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    Re: Rep. Weiner Wigs Out on Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, your position is that every person who was a 9/11 responder was a city employee who is eligible to use health insurance provided by the city of new york
    just wanting to clarify that so i can point out where that may not always be the circumstance, such that there are those who are without adequte health coverage, who need assistance taking care of the health problems caused by the 9/11 rescue efforts
    This bill only goes to aid first responders, which first responders were not working for the city?

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